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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 4:40 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Wrong question wrote: | The wrong question is being asked. The true issue on property taxes is why us the county tax so high? We're supporting a lot if other towns and infrastructure in that tax.
If you really want to reduce taxes argue the school budget.
If you want to argue the town tax go to Trenton and push for a reduction in state mandates.
The cost of those items that the town provides in addition to what is legally required I imagine are a small proportion. |
This is all correct. I personally am fine with our school taxes but it is a fact that it is largest expenditure by far. And our county and state taxes are absolutely subsidizing other townships and school districts. We get back far less than we give. Nice how Christie made a big show of reducing property taxes then his solution was to make Townships do all the cutting while state mandates, the one thing really in his purvue, didn't go down at all. In fact, as a percentage of our taxes they have gone up under Christie since as Township's reduce other expenses state mandates make up a larger percentage. |
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Reduce police and save Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 5:04 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Wrong question wrote: | The wrong question is being asked. The true issue on property taxes is why us the county tax so high? We're supporting a lot if other towns and infrastructure in that tax.
If you really want to reduce taxes argue the school budget.
If you want to argue the town tax go to Trenton and push for a reduction in state mandates.
The cost of those items that the town provides in addition to what is legally required I imagine are a small proportion. |
Or make police cuts to save money. Just like south Brunswick, Plainsboro, hightstown, and all the other towns and cities have in New Jersey. |
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 5:18 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| You are spewing incorrect information again. All of the departments that you named Plainsboro, South Brunswick, and Hightstown have maintained the same number of officers. None have had lay offs. As a matter of fact Plainsboro has hired at least one additional officer. Also as has been said multiple times, Cranbury Officers agreed to lower salaries than all three of those towns. Your rants are filled with misinformation. You seem to be pursuing a personal vendetta. |
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just an observer Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 6:54 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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[quote="guest 123"]Wonder why no one will answer the question? What is the true cost of a police officer including pension and medical. My guess it has to be around $175,000. a year. Work 25years at full pay and retire 25 or more years at 70% pay plus medical and cost of living increases. Yes they do help,but guess who pays the rest? I could care less what other towns pay. If they pay more then go there. There is probably at lest 10 more waiting to take their job. We can no longer keep paying this kind of money. People should start looking out for eachother. Take a slow ride down wonderful Main St. Most every house the curtains are closed so tight they can't even see outside. So, would someone who knows please let us all know what the true cost is ?[/quote]
The police do not receive 70% for 25 years, the get 65%. They also pay 10% of their salary to their pension where many towns and state have not contiributed their portion for years. As for medical, officers are required to pay 30% for health care which follows into retirement and cost of living raises have been abolished for any retiree.
On a side note officers not only work days ,but all night ,weekends and all holidays. They are here serving the community when we all get to celebrate family birthdays, events and holidays.
If you think I'm wrong ask one of our officers like i did.
Just some of my random thoughts. |
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Police defender? Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 8:27 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| I find it hard to believe more than one person keeps posting over and over to defend the police. Why would they and how or why would they have all of the statistics they have in defense of the police? This person seems to have inside information and appears to think the only thing important about Cranbury is the police force. Any idea who this person could be? |
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 8:35 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Nobody thinks the only important thing about Cranbury is the police force. There are just statements that you are making about the police which are incorrect. Feel free to make some misleading inaccurate statements about other Cranbury topics and I'm sure there will be plenty of posters that will correct your misinformation. |
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:02 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Less police equal more crime. Our so called "small"town has plenty of opportunities for criminal behavior. Wealthy area with nice homes and cars and easily accessed and connected to other parts of the state. So this "small"town is only kept "quiet" and so called crime free country club by OUR POLICE. |
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Police defender guy Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:11 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Pro police wrote: | | Less police equal more crime. Our so called "small"town has plenty of opportunities for criminal behavior. Wealthy area with nice homes and cars and easily accessed and connected to other parts of the state. So this "small"town is only kept "quiet" and so called crime free country club by OUR POLICE. |
This must be police defender guy Again. His argument is laughable. |
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Yawn Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:15 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| I am not "police defender guy". I just don't like your campaign of misinformation. Both extremes sound ridiculous. |
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Laugh Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:22 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Yawn wrote: | | I am not "police defender guy". I just don't like your campaign of misinformation. Both extremes sound ridiculous. |
Just like police defenders campaign of misinformation about how mean and dangerous the streets of Cranbury are. |
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Aww Come on Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:34 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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Again, ,more misinformation. Where has anyone said the streets were crime ridden????
Move on with your life. You have to have something better to do than continue to write misinformation. The negativity in your life will only hurt you.
Can't you think of something else to so on a Saturday night than spew negatives. Go out to the Inn and have a few drinks, relax. |
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Seriously Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:57 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Police defender? wrote: | | I find it hard to believe more than one person keeps posting over and over to defend the police. Why would they and how or why would they have all of the statistics they have in defense of the police? This person seems to have inside information and appears to think the only thing important about Cranbury is the police force. Any idea who this person could be? |
Inside info? Seriously? Read a paper sometime. This was all over the place with Christie and his pension and healthcare reform he signed. |
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fyi Guest
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Posted: Sat, Jan 28 2012, 9:58 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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Regardless of the argument over whether we need police to keep Cranbury safe or not, as a pure legal and logistical requirement we have to have people to act as officers of the court to enforce our laws or respond to calls, etc. We have a large commercial and industrial zone that generates calls for various issues every day on top of whatever other residential issues come up. There has to be at least 2 people on duty at any given time at the minimum and sometimes more for peek hours. And the collectively have to cover 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. My office in NY has lobby security and they end up requiring 7 employees to cover 24/7 with 2 people at peek business hours and 1 overnight. It adds up.
Now we can outsource this requirement, but we can't just will it away. I believe they have looked into outsourcing a few times and it came up a year or two ago and supposedly cost more than we pay now. But I'm not the expert. |
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What? Guest
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 8:37 am EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Quote: | | Or make police cuts to save money. Just like south Brunswick, Plainsboro, hightstown, and all the other towns and cities have in New Jersey. |
If the town had 19 officers and they now have 15 then isn't that a decrease of 4 officers? Or do you prefer we only fire officers?
You scream for layoffs, but the fact you ignore is basic math. The town has reduced the police force through retirements. So since the officers have not been replaced the department has been downsized.
You have not stated one fact that is truthful and all the information you claim is inside has been proven correct through news sources or Tc notes. Further, you ignore that Plainsboro due to the hospital will be growing its force and because the hospital is a non-profit it will not pay property taxes. |
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Layoffs Guest
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 12:49 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| It would be extremely hard for the town to layoff with millions in surplus. The town can not simply say we dont want to pay anymore. Towns that layoff have financial hardships and no one see's there property taxes go down. |
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Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2012, 12:53 pm EST Post subject: Re: Notice of the Township Committee special budget meeting on January 21, 2012 |
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| Plainsboro is up near or past 45 Officers now. How many of them has Cranbury payed for? They are living lavishly with Cranbury's court revenue. |
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