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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest11111"]5k is the cost for the fireworks display itself. It doesn't include the insurance, DPW, or police overtime. It is a nice event but in the day of fiscal responsiblity(remember separating wants from needs) and a 2.5 cap I cannot help but wonder if this is the sort of sacred cow we should be spending money on. I put the Memorial Day Parade and Cranbury in this same category. I like these events, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not sure that they are responsible anymore.[/quote] Okay so don't go, but why ruin for the majority of us. I pay taxes too, more than most. As do the group of about 10 families I was with on Memorial Day and the 4th. We all commented about the fireworks how lucky we are to have them and that the costs are well worth it. The DPW crew does not work OT on the 5th, the police do, but it's not a full squad and the fireworks are for the whole town to enjoy. It is posts like this that can cause problems. The TC sees them and then at budget time starts cutting, soon we don't have any of the things that make Cranbury fun.[/quote] Add me to your list of people who pay more than average taxes (3X the township average) who is for spending a little on the fireworks, parade and Cranbury Day. I am all for being fiscally responsible and didn't support buying the bank building or the ballpark. But this is extremist. We don't need to worry. The TC members know these are popular events for a vast majority of locals and pretty cheap. They aren't going anywhere. So the tiny minority who want to complain about everything can vent all they want but it won't change a thing.[/quote]
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Uncle Buck
Posted: Fri, Jul 30 2010, 8:37 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Howdy! Don't want to rain on your Parade (or Fireworks) but last time I hung out at the bar down the street, the guys there were sayin' that Christie was not a Democrat. Not only that, but most of them financial wizardry guys are not Democrats, either; they tend to be in that magical category where they don't pay no taxes except on their fancy cars and their fancy houses here in Cranbury that you can't see unless you know where to look.
PS: I thought the fireworks display was great! Better than the stuff in Mercer County Park that seems to be scheduled six weeks too early. And kudos to the musical entertainment. Best part is that I didn't even have to pay for it, specially since it probably cost a whole lot more that five g's.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 6:59 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
publius wrote:
Strange that in the richest country in the world........in one of THE richest states in the country..............in one of the more well-to-do towns in the state............we must scrimp and scratch and save like we're still living through the Great Depression!
Nice how the financial wunderkinds can mess us up so much.
It doesn't seem to matter much whether you keep your own fiscal house in good order. When the malefactors of the moneyed classes screw up, they drag us all down with them.
You know the Great American Mantra.............privatize the profits and socialize the losses!!!!!!!!
I know that all of the financial types out there will excoriate me now.
I'm sure that Christie's plan is more to fatten up his friends than to save the poor taxpayer's money.
It usually seems to work out that way.
That's what happenes when you elect democrats
publius
Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 9:09 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Strange that in the richest country in the world........in one of THE richest states in the country..............in one of the more well-to-do towns in the state............we must scrimp and scratch and save like we're still living through the Great Depression!
Nice how the financial wunderkinds can mess us up so much.
It doesn't seem to matter much whether you keep your own fiscal house in good order. When the malefactors of the moneyed classes screw up, they drag us all down with them.
You know the Great American Mantra.............privatize the profits and socialize the losses!!!!!!!!
I know that all of the financial types out there will excoriate me now.
I'm sure that Christie's plan is more to fatten up his friends than to save the poor taxpayer's money.
It usually seems to work out that way.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 10:36 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
And the town will be given the option to be the buyer. There is no intent to sell the property to a developer. It is not even a thought. Please do not spread this rumor it is false.
Again not spreading rumor, just stating what I heard from a VERY reliable person. BTW the property for sale soon is on the South side not the North.
The only reliable person on this matter is Roy. Unless he has something to say the rest of us should shut up.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 10:17 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
And the town will be given the option to be the buyer. There is no intent to sell the property to a developer. It is not even a thought. Please do not spread this rumor it is false.
Again not spreading rumor, just stating what I heard from a VERY reliable person. BTW the property for sale soon is on the South side not the North.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 10:09 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
I think what the "guest" poster meant when asking what is the difference between purchasing farm land for perservation or some other piece of property that might be in the downtown area is that there is little difference. Both are planning for the future. Both increase taxes, but sometimes it is worth it...
It's bang for the buck. The PNC property would never have paid off as an investment. The supporters were repeatedly asked to demonstrate that and never could. The only justification they kept coming back to, since the economic one didn't work, was to put a Library / Senior Center there. We already have a library that is size-appropriate for our tiny Township so while that's nice it wasn't easy to justify as a tax expense. The Library is now pursuing private funding, in addition to their surplus from our taxes, for expansion which sounds like a better idea. When large farm tracks are preserved, the economic case is easier to see since they could host a lot more development than the PNC site.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 9:07 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
And the town will be given the option to be the buyer. There is no intent to sell the property to a developer. It is not even a thought. Please do not spread this rumor it is false.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 8:35 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
The North side was not preserved because they want to continue to farm it. It was mentioned at the TC meeting that should it ever be up for sale the Town will be able to purchase it. Please do not spread false information about it being up for sale possibly. It is not
Not rumor, If Roy gets a good offer he will sell. Yes he will farm for now but the big money is in development.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 8:16 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
I think what the "guest" poster meant when asking what is the difference between purchasing farm land for perservation or some other piece of property that might be in the downtown area is that there is little difference. Both are planning for the future. Both increase taxes, but sometimes it is worth it...
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 7:04 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
The North side was not preserved because they want to continue to farm it. It was mentioned at the TC meeting that should it ever be up for sale the Town will be able to purchase it. Please do not spread false information about it being up for sale possibly. It is not
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 8:04 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
Halfway down Plainsboro road just after the bend. Both side of the road. It is most desireable because of the amount of acreage. Offhand I do not remember how many houses could be built on it according to our current zoning, but to venture a guess probably around 30.
Also, somebody stated that the northern Reinhardt property is mostly wetlands and therefore no one could build on it. Possibly, but I would remind you that was the Townships stance on the Haggerty property that now houses the age restricted housing. Haggerty brought in his own experts who drastically reduced the size of the wetlands.
Only the north side of the property was preserved. The south side which is 40 or more acres is not preserved and possibly up for sale.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 5:32 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
PNC property could support two Main Street residences and perhaps three on Maplewood. Anyway, seem likes the Reinhardt property equals PNC property re. potential future development.
Your comment makes no sense. There is already restricted zoning on the PNC lots that limited it to 2 sites, so no surprise that the result with the new owners is, gee, 2 sites. Any how does that "equal" the dozens of sites that could be parceled from the Reinhardt lot?
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 4:09 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
There is no way at all you could put 5 homes on PNC. The only reason one home can go in is because there was already a home on that site. To say PNC could have that many homes is akin to saying that a homeowner in Shadow Oaks on a 5 acre lot could put in 10 half acre homes.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 3:21 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
Guest wrote:
PNC property could support two Main Street residences and perhaps three on Maplewood. Anyway, seem likes the Reinhardt property equals PNC property re. potential future development.
I am confused. You are saying 30=5?. Also, I don't believe the PNC property would be zoned for 5 houses.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 3:11 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
PNC property could support two Main Street residences and perhaps three on Maplewood. Anyway, seem likes the Reinhardt property equals PNC property re. potential future development.[/quote]
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 10 2010, 1:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Vantage points other than Village Park for fireworks?
It is also on the residential side of town so it was one of the last open spaces bordering the town on this side of 130. It allows people to enter town and be surrounded by the woods and open space.