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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]I will say it's nice that we don't see signs in the TC and BOE members yards. It shows our officials are above party politics. It was nice that the town was above party politics.[/quote] I assume this was sarcastic...[/quote] No, it wasn't. I don't see Rush or Sipprelle signs up on these individuals yards. I hope it stays this way. I have no issue if they vote Democrat or Republican, but it is nice to see they are not the ardent party members with signs in their yards. The nice thing about Cranbury was always politics were never front and center. It's sad to see it going this way IMO. If people support candidates that's great people should be active. It was just nice that we never had the signs out that littered other towns.[/quote]
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Posted: Tue, Sep 14 2010, 9:35 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
"I think bashing people who are running for office and have no track record, whether Glenn, Dan or Art is not a smart move by people."
Interestingly, Art does have a track record. He has previously served on the Township Committee. Somehow in this melee this fact was lost. Now I suspect judging by the tenor of everything else on this board his record will be judged purely according to party lines. But nonetheless, maybe you could start debating his record?
The problem is I believe that about 10% of Cranbury bring partisanship into local elections, and all of those people post on this board. I think for the vast majority of this town the vote on the person that they know and his/her level of intelligence and character. This back and forth is madness. While posters try to parse differences in COAH, I honestly don't know a member of the TC going back to from when it was entirely Republican through when it was entirely Democratic up through today who varied on the Cranbury stand on COAH. Maybe we could refer to it as the Cranbury Pary Line. Under the Republicans we went to 6 acre zoning in an attempt to stop development and thwart COAH. This worked for a number of years. Once developers started to build Mcmansions anyway and our numbers started to increase the Democrats began to try buying up land in order to preserve it. Under the third round of COAH when our COAH numbers were rediculously inflated both members of both parties did all they could to Lobby Trenton. I don't think party affiliation has affected the Cranbury response to COAH.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Sep 14 2010, 9:21 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
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These attacks are typical of the local democratic party machine. You would think they would understand this is why they are loosing power in the first place.
Keep up the good work and keep attacking.
Wait, "the local democratic party machine"?!?! What the hell is that? I don't think the local democrats have even had a caucus in the last 3 years. If you think there is a local "Democratic Party Machine", you have a tenuous grasp on reality.
Oh, but saying Mr. Hasselbach and Mr. Mulligan are tea party members and active supporters is okay for posters?
Let me get this straight someone states something that you think is untrue. Instead of addressing this you decide to invent a "democratic party machine". You now are free to make up anything about your opponents? If you think your candidate is being smeared address that, don't smear the other party.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Sep 14 2010, 8:53 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
To the Dem poster above,
Over the last few years, David, Pari, Richard and John have been slammed relentlessly by anonymous posters on this board. More recently, Win, Dan and Art have come under fire. To which mantra do you subscribe- "an eye for an eye", or "turn the other cheek"?
I subscribe to turn the other cheek. Step above the fray. I don't condone the bashing of people. I also do not agree with David and Pari. I did find their attitudes at TC meetings rude at times and dismissive. I did not agree with many of their decisions. Richard I have always thought tried to do what he thought was right and found him open.
I think bashing people who are running for office and have no track record, whether Glenn, Dan or Art is not a smart move by people. You can be loyal to party, but that doesn't mean bashing people. It means highlighting what your candidate stands for and looks to accomplish.
Doing the negative only goes to reinforce the sterotypes and causes people to vote against the candidate. I'm a Dem, plan to vote for Holt. But, after hearing two of our current TC members try to scare me about Mr. Taylor and Mr. Cody, well I'm likely not voting for Glenn as a result. I think Mr. Taylor and Mr. Cody regardless of party are doing well and the meeting notes verify this. I wish we did have a Democratic leaders who step above the negative.
I don't want to be party to this or associated with a group that looks so hard at party lines on a local level that they try to bash members of the other party whether those trying to volunteer or those sitting.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Sep 14 2010, 7:53 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
To the Dem poster above,
Over the last few years, David, Pari, Richard and John have been slammed relentlessly by anonymous posters on this board. More recently, Win, Dan and Art have come under fire. To which mantra do you subscribe- "an eye for an eye", or "turn the other cheek"?
Guest
Posted: Tue, Sep 14 2010, 7:19 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
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Yeah, I just googled their names and Tea party and found the first hit was a website called townhall.com It is a tea party site. unfortunate
Funny. When I Google Art Hasselbach I don't get that site or anything like it. I do get a link to THIS page on cranbury.info though.
Those nasty democrats slurring us by pointing out how proud we are to be Cranbury Tea Partiers - nice
http://cranburyconservative.blogspot.com/2009/04/tax-day-tea-party-2009-at-cranbury-inn.html
Can you provide something a little more recent? The tax party in question was from the first time it was ever done and before there was any type of movement or Tea Party group. I'm a pretty liberal person, don't espouse to the Tea Party movement, yet I was there that night at the Inn. I had never before seen such a movement and was curious. Especially, as I had been yelling about the Republicans straddling us with debt under GW.
BTW, for those talking about the Cranbury Democratic Machine. I have no idea if that is true or not and it seems silly to me think there is. However, I have had two sitting members of the TC recently bad mouth the two Rep. members directly to me so that I would vote for Mr. Johnson. One of them I was very surprised to hear something negative from and lost a lot of respect. Then I see posts here and wonder what we Democrats are doing? Are we insane that we think throwing mud and making negative remarks will win us an election in a small town? People going negative never works and only shows we have no ideas. If this is how my party will play the game then I am further removed from the local party then I ever thought possible.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 10:50 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
I have decided to take on the wrath of this board. Here comes my offensive thesis. It won't make a dimes worth of difference who we elect. In this town the republican and democratic positions are essentially the same. I have only lived in town about 20 years, but the only differences i have seen were the dems favored preserving one or two more pieces of land than the repubs. In the end two other pieces of land that were about to be developed were able to be preserved. Net change, nothing. My advice vote for the guys who seem the brightest. But if you don't, no big deal.
Let the missives fly!
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 10:37 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
I guess I don't see the big deal. A lot of reasonable people were sipping tea before the likes of Palin and Beck hijacked the conversation with their hollow rhetoric.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 10:12 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Yeah, I just googled their names and Tea party and found the first hit was a website called townhall.com It is a tea party site. unfortunate
Funny. When I Google Art Hasselbach I don't get that site or anything like it. I do get a link to THIS page on cranbury.info though.
Those nasty democrats slurring us by pointing out how proud we are to be Cranbury Tea Partiers - nice
http://cranburyconservative.blogspot.com/2009/04/tax-day-tea-party-2009-at-cranbury-inn.html
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 10:02 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
These attacks are typical of the local democratic party machine. You would think they would understand this is why they are loosing power in the first place.
Keep up the good work and keep attacking.
Wait, "the local democratic party machine"?!?! What the hell is that? I don't think the local democrats have even had a caucus in the last 3 years. If you think there is a local "Democratic Party Machine", you have a tenuous grasp on reality.
Oh, but saying Mr. Hasselbach and Mr. Mulligan are tea party members and active supporters is okay for posters?
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 8:34 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
These attacks are typical of the local democratic party machine. You would think they would understand this is why they are loosing power in the first place.
Keep up the good work and keep attacking.
Wait, "the local democratic party machine"?!?! What the hell is that? I don't think the local democrats have even had a caucus in the last 3 years. If you think there is a local "Democratic Party Machine", you have a tenuous grasp on reality.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 8:30 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Is Sarah Palin comin' ta Cranbury?
I could use a dern good laugh now, dontcha know?
You betcha!
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 3:40 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
These attacks are typical of the local democratic party machine. You would think they would understand this is why they are loosing power in the first place.
Keep up the good work and keep attacking.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 3:37 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
Yeah, I just googled their names and Tea party and found the first hit was a website called townhall.com It is a tea party site. unfortunate
Funny. When I Google Art Hasselbach I don't get that site or anything like it. I do get a link to THIS page on cranbury.info though.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 1:52 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
Yeah, I just googled their names and Tea party and found the first hit was a website called townhall.com It is a tea party site. unfortunate
Am just seeing this about Mulligan and Hasselbach. I’m appalled. It’s a matter of character and judgment – not politics - and leaves all voters in Cranbury in quite a predicament
Not voting for them is not the fix in this case
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 12:31 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Signs, signs, everywhere there's signs
Blockin' up the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign
Signs, signs, everywhere there's signs
Blockin' up the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign
Guest
Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2010, 12:17 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Rush Holt Signs in Cranbury
Guest wrote:
and what does any of this have to do with signs?
Shhhh....They're on a roll.