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[quote="Guest"][quote="Susan Goetz"]Hello -I am looking forward to answering any questions the people of Cranbury have about my position on this or any other issue of concern at tomorrow night's Candidate's night (8PM, Cranbury School). I have already researched this issue and have made my position on the free standing library clear since very early in my campaign. If we haven't met in person and chatted about this yet, I believe each of you will be receiving a letter from me in the next day or two with a clear statement about this and other concerns that have been brought to my attention while I have been campaigning for Township Committee. This is what my letter says about the issue: [quote]Library – A library can be a community treasure and I will personally contribute to its development. Nevertheless, as your TC rep, I can not support public funding of a new library as a component of our Township budget. I do, however, support the dedication of public land as identified in the Master Plan for the library’s construction I also thank the group committed to this aggressive fund raising and urge everyone to take the time to understand this effort.[/quote] I continue to welcome your questions and concerns about this and any other issue affecting your life in Cranbury. I invite you to visit my website ([url]www.susangoetz.com[/url]) or contact me if you have any additional questions. Thank you for this opportunity to present my position. - Susan Goetz[/quote] Thank you Susan. I appreciate you coming on this site in an attempt to put this issue to rest. I still don't understand why people are so confused about this.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 4:44 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The Brainerd Braulers</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Oct 13 2011, 3:29 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Perfect ballfield for a semi-pro team. <br />The Cranbury Colonials!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011, 8:12 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Speaking of that Babe Ruth field it's nice to see that it's never used.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />And only Win didn't want to screw us by raising taxes and the school spends too much money and the Democrats were trying to rule the world and spend all our money on unnecessary projects when they controlled the TC and they almost wasted our money buying the PNC Bank site to build the library and they wasted our money cleaning up a downed tree and replacing the public sidewalk, etc. etc. <br /> <br />There. Got it out of your system yet? <br /> <br />Do you really think its clever or funny or somehow relevant to recycle things that have been discussed at length here already?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011, 6:02 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Speaking of that Babe Ruth field it's nice to see that it's never used.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011, 7:47 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This is one poster people who is just trying to cause trouble. I'm personally not in support of a new library but this person is an utter cretin. Nothing anyone writes will garner a credible response because they clearly don't care about reality, just slinging crap.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011, 7:43 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That money is legally theirs. If they feel a stand alone library is important then it will be used to that purpose. I don't think a new library isn't any stretch a need, but many people do who are not on the board. So the chances are zero that they will stop the process and hand back the surplus.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No that money is the residents A.K.A the taxpayers of Cranbury</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You're splitting hairs over semantics. The point their were making is the state mandates minimum funding to the library and that's where that money comes from.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />LOL 600k is what you call minimum funding, for a library in a town with under 4000 people LOL</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Are you an idiot or just as ass? The key phrase was "state mandated." You can complain all you want but you're focused on the wrong government body. The state defined how much the library got, not Cranbury. Cranbury Library receives the absolute least amount the state allows it to get from taxpayers. You can like it or not but stop acting like we have a choice. I suspect you knew this and are just trying to chum the waters, which makes you an ass. But I leave open the small possibility you don't know how to read and are merely dumb.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 5:32 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was told by one of the attendees that fine wine and filet mignon were served at the event along with a live band and dancing. Must be nice to have a 600k tax payer funded slush fund. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Look here the library board held an offsite retreat with the giant 600k slush fund they have created with our taxes. I wonder what that cost us. oh wait I meant the library with our tax money. Oh look at the notes below how they hired consultants and did study's to help raise money for the new library. I guess that also without regard they were using money taken from tax payers for running a library. I do not remember the charter of the library to be to pay consultants to study building a new library or to pay consultants on how to raise money for a new library. Smells like a misuse of our taxes and corruption to me. <br /> <br />Why is no one investigating this misuse of funds? <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />BOARD OF TRUSTEES <br />CRANBURY PUBLIC LIBRARY <br />RETREAT MINUTES <br />January 16, 2010 <br />Meadow Lakes, Hightstown, NJ <br />1. CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT at 9:25 am <br />Pursuant to the provisions of the Open Public Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by the Library Director as follows: On December 15, 2009, a notice for this meeting was sent to the Cranbury Press, Home News Tribune, and Township Clerk and posted in the Public Library. <br /> <br />2. INTRODUCTION OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES <br />Kirstie Venanzi, President <br />Hal Rourke, Vice-President <br />Patty Thomsson, Treasurer <br />Kim Borden, Secretary <br />David Fletcher <br />Andre Mento <br />Charlene Vivian-Granville <br />Julie Hardaker, Chief School Administrator and FCPL Representative <br />Pam Parseghian, Mayor’s Representative <br />Also present: <br />Marilynn Mullen, Director <br />Jan Murphy, Youth and Community Outreach Librarian <br />Doug Baldwin, Systems Administrator <br />For Foundation Presentation (12:15-1:15pm): <br />Pat Demers <br /> <br />3. WELCOME BY BOARD PRESIDENT: Kirstie <br /> <br />4. REVIEWS OF 2009 <br /> <br />A. Director’s Annual Report/Progress Against Operational Goals 2009: Marilynn <br /> <br />B. Board’s Review of 2009/2010 Goals: Kirstie <br /> <br />1. Items from 2009 that Need More Attention: <br /> <br />• Offer orientation support for new Trustees. Continue to provide updated Trustee’s manual, which new trustees find to be a good resource. <br /> <br />• Evaluate and continue implementation of Strategic Plan. <br />Page 2 of 3 <br />2. Items Revised/Added/Deleted for 2010: <br /> <br />• Delete “Ensure timely completion of all Library strategic and annual goals, all monthly and yearly financial reporting and to act on any audit recommendations.” <br /> <br />• Add “Ensure timely completion of annual audit and all monthly and yearly financial reporting. Act on all audit recommendations.” <br /> <br />• Revise “Encourage suggestions . . .” bullet to “Encourage suggestions and interactions with the staff, Friends of the Cranbury Public Library, Cranbury Library Foundation and other supporters.” <br /> <br />• Change “Township Planner” to “Planning Board” on “Continue communication with . . .” bullet. <br /> <br />• Change “begin” to “continue” on “Evaluate and begin implementation of Strategic Plan.” <br />• Change “Establish formal” to “Maintain” on “Establish formal public and community relations initiative and policy.” <br /> <br />• Change “Establish a Library Foundation” to “Ongoing support of the Cranbury Library Foundation.” <br />5. OPERATIONAL GOALS FOR 2010: Marilynn <br />A. Director and Board of Trustees Goals Section <br />1. Add <br /> <br />• Complete conceptual architectural drawings and associated cost estimates of the new freestanding facility which will encompass the library. <br /> <br />6. FOUNDATION PRESENTATION: Janice Roddenbery <br /> <br />A. Janice specializes in capital campaigns for small and mid-sized organizations. <br /> <br />B. Explanation of Capital Campaign Feasibility Study Process <br />1. This takes 3 months, start to finish. <br />2. A planning study is the first step of a capital campaign – this planning study is called a Campaign Feasibility Study. It is recommended that outside consultants be used for confidentiality and their experience. <br /> <br />3. The purpose of the study is to determine if the project is viable. It also sets a dollar goal and a timeframe. In addition, it determines what aspects of the projects are of greatest interest to the community. These aspects are used to develop the Case Statement. The Case Statement is the case for support. <br /> <br />4. An additional purpose is to identify major donors. Potential volunteers and campaign leadership are also identified during this phase. <br /> <br />5. This is also an opportunity to gather information on issues and concerns in the community. <br /> <br />6. The Feasibility Study demonstrates good planning and this builds community confidence. It also helps potential donors feel like part of the process. <br /> <br />7. A list is developed of individuals to be asked to be interviewed – Friends of the Library, Foundation Board, Mayor, corporate leaders, business association leaders, etc. 60 individuals are invited for 40-45 interviews. <br /> <br />8. Next the questionnaire is developed. Some questions are standard but more customized content questions are also added. <br /> <br />9. Finally, a letter is sent to the 60 interviewees and then the interviews take place and a mid-term report is prepared. The interviews are then completed and the final report is prepared and a presentation is given. <br /> <br />Page 3 of 3 <br />C. Main Steps in a Capital Campaign <br />1. Form a campaign steering committee and select steering committee leadership. <br />2. Decide on a dollar goal and timeframe. <br />3. Name the campaign. <br />4. Formulate the case for support. <br />5. Develop named gift opportunities. <br />6. Develop solicitation documents for initial or “silent” phase for the nucleus fund. <br />7. Develop a list of major gift prospects then rate and screen these. <br />8. Plan donor cultivation events. <br />9. Train volunteers on gift solicitation. <br />10. Reevaluate the dollar goal and timeframe after the silent phase (i.e., 1/3 of funds in 6-8 months). <br />11. Publish campaign brochure and plan campaign kick-off. <br />12. Recruit volunteers for a broader committee of volunteers. <br />13. Work through rated prospects. <br />14. Execute a general campaign at the end (bricks, etc.) to finish up. <br />7. SUMMARY BY BOARD PRESIDENT: Kirstie <br />8. ADJOURNMENT @ 1:50 pm <br />Respectfully submitted, <br />Kim Borden</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 5:31 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OK that's it. Look replying to this guy just encourages him. The last post indicates that he is either a complete crackpot, or a guy that just likes to drive other people crazy. <br /> <br />This forum has been over this issue ad vomitum. There is nothing new here. Please stop feeding this particular troll.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 4:09 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Look here the library board held an offsite retreat with the giant 600k slush fund they have created with our taxes. I wonder what that cost us. oh wait I meant the library with our tax money. Oh look at the notes below how they hired consultants and did study's to help raise money for the new library. I guess that also without regard they were using money taken from tax payers for running a library. I do not remember the charter of the library to be to pay consultants to study building a new library or to pay consultants on how to raise money for a new library. Smells like a misuse of our taxes and corruption to me. <br /> <br />Why is no one investigating this misuse of funds? <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />BOARD OF TRUSTEES <br />CRANBURY PUBLIC LIBRARY <br />RETREAT MINUTES <br />January 16, 2010 <br />Meadow Lakes, Hightstown, NJ <br />1. CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT at 9:25 am <br />Pursuant to the provisions of the Open Public Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by the Library Director as follows: On December 15, 2009, a notice for this meeting was sent to the Cranbury Press, Home News Tribune, and Township Clerk and posted in the Public Library. <br /> <br />2. INTRODUCTION OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES <br />Kirstie Venanzi, President <br />Hal Rourke, Vice-President <br />Patty Thomsson, Treasurer <br />Kim Borden, Secretary <br />David Fletcher <br />Andre Mento <br />Charlene Vivian-Granville <br />Julie Hardaker, Chief School Administrator and FCPL Representative <br />Pam Parseghian, Mayor’s Representative <br />Also present: <br />Marilynn Mullen, Director <br />Jan Murphy, Youth and Community Outreach Librarian <br />Doug Baldwin, Systems Administrator <br />For Foundation Presentation (12:15-1:15pm): <br />Pat Demers <br /> <br />3. WELCOME BY BOARD PRESIDENT: Kirstie <br /> <br />4. REVIEWS OF 2009 <br /> <br />A. Director’s Annual Report/Progress Against Operational Goals 2009: Marilynn <br /> <br />B. Board’s Review of 2009/2010 Goals: Kirstie <br /> <br />1. Items from 2009 that Need More Attention: <br /> <br />• Offer orientation support for new Trustees. Continue to provide updated Trustee’s manual, which new trustees find to be a good resource. <br /> <br />• Evaluate and continue implementation of Strategic Plan. <br />Page 2 of 3 <br />2. Items Revised/Added/Deleted for 2010: <br /> <br />• Delete “Ensure timely completion of all Library strategic and annual goals, all monthly and yearly financial reporting and to act on any audit recommendations.” <br /> <br />• Add “Ensure timely completion of annual audit and all monthly and yearly financial reporting. Act on all audit recommendations.” <br /> <br />• Revise “Encourage suggestions . . .” bullet to “Encourage suggestions and interactions with the staff, Friends of the Cranbury Public Library, Cranbury Library Foundation and other supporters.” <br /> <br />• Change “Township Planner” to “Planning Board” on “Continue communication with . . .” bullet. <br /> <br />• Change “begin” to “continue” on “Evaluate and begin implementation of Strategic Plan.” <br />• Change “Establish formal” to “Maintain” on “Establish formal public and community relations initiative and policy.” <br /> <br />• Change “Establish a Library Foundation” to “Ongoing support of the Cranbury Library Foundation.” <br />5. OPERATIONAL GOALS FOR 2010: Marilynn <br />A. Director and Board of Trustees Goals Section <br />1. Add <br /> <br />• Complete conceptual architectural drawings and associated cost estimates of the new freestanding facility which will encompass the library. <br /> <br />6. FOUNDATION PRESENTATION: Janice Roddenbery <br /> <br />A. Janice specializes in capital campaigns for small and mid-sized organizations. <br /> <br />B. Explanation of Capital Campaign Feasibility Study Process <br />1. This takes 3 months, start to finish. <br />2. A planning study is the first step of a capital campaign – this planning study is called a Campaign Feasibility Study. It is recommended that outside consultants be used for confidentiality and their experience. <br /> <br />3. The purpose of the study is to determine if the project is viable. It also sets a dollar goal and a timeframe. In addition, it determines what aspects of the projects are of greatest interest to the community. These aspects are used to develop the Case Statement. The Case Statement is the case for support. <br /> <br />4. An additional purpose is to identify major donors. Potential volunteers and campaign leadership are also identified during this phase. <br /> <br />5. This is also an opportunity to gather information on issues and concerns in the community. <br /> <br />6. The Feasibility Study demonstrates good planning and this builds community confidence. It also helps potential donors feel like part of the process. <br /> <br />7. A list is developed of individuals to be asked to be interviewed – Friends of the Library, Foundation Board, Mayor, corporate leaders, business association leaders, etc. 60 individuals are invited for 40-45 interviews. <br /> <br />8. Next the questionnaire is developed. Some questions are standard but more customized content questions are also added. <br /> <br />9. Finally, a letter is sent to the 60 interviewees and then the interviews take place and a mid-term report is prepared. The interviews are then completed and the final report is prepared and a presentation is given. <br /> <br />Page 3 of 3 <br />C. Main Steps in a Capital Campaign <br />1. Form a campaign steering committee and select steering committee leadership. <br />2. Decide on a dollar goal and timeframe. <br />3. Name the campaign. <br />4. Formulate the case for support. <br />5. Develop named gift opportunities. <br />6. Develop solicitation documents for initial or “silent” phase for the nucleus fund. <br />7. Develop a list of major gift prospects then rate and screen these. <br />8. Plan donor cultivation events. <br />9. Train volunteers on gift solicitation. <br />10. Reevaluate the dollar goal and timeframe after the silent phase (i.e., 1/3 of funds in 6-8 months). <br />11. Publish campaign brochure and plan campaign kick-off. <br />12. Recruit volunteers for a broader committee of volunteers. <br />13. Work through rated prospects. <br />14. Execute a general campaign at the end (bricks, etc.) to finish up. <br />7. SUMMARY BY BOARD PRESIDENT: Kirstie <br />8. ADJOURNMENT @ 1:50 pm <br />Respectfully submitted, <br />Kim Borden</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 3:50 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The library is allowed to return the $600,000 back to the taxpayers. They are choosing to use it for a stand alone library. <br /> <br />Does anyone know how the library board members are selected?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That is not correct. The money is in capital. Capital money cannot be returned. <br /> <br />The library before moving money to capital could return money, but that is still their money now. As soon as you paid your tax bill you lost it. If you really care and aren't just a troll then go to a library board meeting. Complaining here will not help.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Its amazing how they can justify taking our taxes and using for what they see fit. Yes of course its capital money and cannot be returned. Well that capital money is still from every taxpayer in Cranbury and now the money is sitting in a bank account waiting for the board of the cranbury library to use the slush fund they have created as they see fit. Smells like corruption to me fellow cranbury residents.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 3:47 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The town can't say howuch goes to the library. Once the residents pay taxes the money is legally theirs to use as they see fit. There is nothing we as tax payees can do. We are legally obligated to pay according to the state formula and the library is entitled to use it in their interest. So yes it's tax payer money, but legally owned by the library.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So the people on the library board are the ones who have decided to take our taxes and build a giant slush fund? Who are these people? Maybe more of us should be aware of who is on the library board and the giant slush fund they have of over 6ook of our tax money.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 3:45 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The library is allowed to return the $600,000 back to the taxpayers. They are choosing to use it for a stand alone library. <br /> <br />Does anyone know how the library board members are selected?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That is not correct. The money is in capital. Capital money cannot be returned. <br /> <br />The library before moving money to capital could return money, but that is still their money now. As soon as you paid your tax bill you lost it. If you really care and aren't just a troll then go to a library board meeting. Complaining here will not help.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 3:42 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That money is legally theirs. If they feel a stand alone library is important then it will be used to that purpose. I don't think a new library isn't any stretch a need, but many people do who are not on the board. So the chances are zero that they will stop the process and hand back the surplus.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No that money is the residents A.K.A the taxpayers of Cranbury</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You're splitting hairs over semantics. The point their were making is the state mandates minimum funding to the library and that's where that money comes from.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />LOL 600k is what you call minimum funding, for a library in a town with under 4000 people LOL</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 2:58 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The library is allowed to return the $600,000 back to the taxpayers. They are choosing to use it for a stand alone library. <br /> <br />Does anyone know how the library board members are selected?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 2:37 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The town can't say howuch goes to the library. Once the residents pay taxes the money is legally theirs to use as they see fit. There is nothing we as tax payees can do. We are legally obligated to pay according to the state formula and the library is entitled to use it in their interest. So yes it's tax payer money, but legally owned by the library.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2011, 2:30 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: old Wrights Roses site</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That money is legally theirs. If they feel a stand alone library is important then it will be used to that purpose. I don't think a new library isn't any stretch a need, but many people do who are not on the board. So the chances are zero that they will stop the process and hand back the surplus.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No that money is the residents A.K.A the taxpayers of Cranbury</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You're splitting hairs over semantics. The point their were making is the state mandates minimum funding to the library and that's where that money comes from.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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