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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.[/quote] Or does Cranbury need to develop a concept of what 130 should look like instead of allowing it to become like East Windsor with a mish mash of buildings built simply because a developer approached the town? The trend seems to be towns designing the look for an area and then working with builders and developers to fit that area. For example Plainsboro did that with the town center and Robbinsville is doing that with Rt 33 where it used to be run down and is now being redeveloped.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 9:56 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For the poster who keeps referencing the Plainsboro Town Center as an example (and Robbinsville, which was its model and done by the same developer), you are mixing apples-and-oranges. Plainsboro still has strip malls, etc. too. The Town Center was one-specific development, not some overarching zoning plan. And it was accomplished because they made a specific deal with a single developer. The developer got what they wanted most -- housing -- in exchange for creating the high density mixed use office and retail plan along with it. All those houses you see behind the Center and down the road were the carrot. Same in Washington/Robbinsville. <br /> <br />So while it's a nice example, though still completely unproven yet as a financial success, it hardly is something that is applicable to an entire zoning plan for Route 130. And it won't be easy, or questionably even legal, unless you're willing to consider high density housing in the mix and do we really want that? <br /> <br />I think Cranbury's historic plan of conceding Route 130 and everything on the other side of it as a commercial zone that brings in ratables is a good one. Don't get greedy by believing we can have our cake and eat it too by now supposing we can dictate any terms we want and they will still come. I agree with a previous poster that we seem to be a bit NIMBY about in realistic project these days.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You aren't reading the comment at all. No one is saying you can dictate the terms of what you want- 7-11, hotel, mom and pop, etc... You are dictating what the concept and look can be. The physical look. That is not only legal, but done quite frequently. We even do it to an extent on Main St. Developers will work with the town to place structures that fit the design. You don't need high density housing to accomplish this. You just need to say this is how we want the area to look. You can still have strip malls, but ones that fit a common look. EW is a horrible mix of different style and look. <br /> <br />However, you seem to be for whatever happens happens.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Not really. Read the previous posts and the minutes of the meeting. We have done far more than dictate the look. One project after another has been opposed in fundamental ways -- we don't want a convenience store on that block on 130, etc. Just this week they asked a developer to consider halving the size of their project. Keep in mind when someone buys a property they do an economic analysis of how they will monetize that property against the maximum zonable FAR (square footage) so suggestiing they make it half as big isn't just about look, it changes the economics. And, again, what they did in Plainsboro and Robbinsville was make economically feasible by the high density housing. Plainsboro had been trying to do that project for almost 20 years and it was only when they attached the high density housing to it that developers took interest given the extra costs and restrictions they were being asked to accept for the rest of the project.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />People want to build on 130 and we can allow commercial. We can also say if you want it then the design has to look like this.... The design of what a building looks like has nothing to do with the housing. The housing was because one developer wanted to develop the site. It was not because they said we want the look to be like this....Many places in many states have done this without housing. They have redeveloped down town areas and commercial highways so there is a consistent look. <br /> <br />My argument has nothing to do with what the PB or ZB has done to date. If you read you'll see the only difference between me and you is you want any look so long as someone builds and I want to make it an area where we don't have a bunch of ugly looking buildings that don't match each other.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 9:51 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Agreed that a huge hotel would be a problem and a strain on town resources. But yet again, another example of our town planning members with their heads so far up their own rear ends that they get caught with their pants down. Planning Board, HPAC, etc- please stop the mentality of "we don't know what we want, but we know when we see it." This approach is exactly what causes inequities within the town and several sets of rules. With this approach, the natural result is large businesses that cn afford to throw their weight around get what they want and individual residents that represent themselves are held to the highest of the regulations. SET A PUBLIC AGENDA, HAVE A VISION FOR THIS SPACE. DO YOUR INTENDED JOBS!!! Stop being just elite police that serve your own private, non-discloded agendas with blatant arrogancee. As you can see from every application that goes through.. it doesn't work but to create inequities. <br />P.S. you didn't create Cranbury, you are just responsible for serving the public in it- PLEASE start acting that way!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 9:50 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For the poster who keeps referencing the Plainsboro Town Center as an example (and Robbinsville, which was its model and done by the same developer), you are mixing apples-and-oranges. Plainsboro still has strip malls, etc. too. The Town Center was one-specific development, not some overarching zoning plan. And it was accomplished because they made a specific deal with a single developer. The developer got what they wanted most -- housing -- in exchange for creating the high density mixed use office and retail plan along with it. All those houses you see behind the Center and down the road were the carrot. Same in Washington/Robbinsville. <br /> <br />So while it's a nice example, though still completely unproven yet as a financial success, it hardly is something that is applicable to an entire zoning plan for Route 130. And it won't be easy, or questionably even legal, unless you're willing to consider high density housing in the mix and do we really want that? <br /> <br />I think Cranbury's historic plan of conceding Route 130 and everything on the other side of it as a commercial zone that brings in ratables is a good one. Don't get greedy by believing we can have our cake and eat it too by now supposing we can dictate any terms we want and they will still come. I agree with a previous poster that we seem to be a bit NIMBY about in realistic project these days.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You aren't reading the comment at all. No one is saying you can dictate the terms of what you want- 7-11, hotel, mom and pop, etc... You are dictating what the concept and look can be. The physical look. That is not only legal, but done quite frequently. We even do it to an extent on Main St. Developers will work with the town to place structures that fit the design. You don't need high density housing to accomplish this. You just need to say this is how we want the area to look. You can still have strip malls, but ones that fit a common look. EW is a horrible mix of different style and look. <br /> <br />However, you seem to be for whatever happens happens.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Not really. Read the previous posts and the minutes of the meeting. We have done far more than dictate the look. One project after another has been opposed in fundamental ways -- we don't want a convenience store on that block on 130, etc. Just this week they asked a developer to consider halving the size of their project. Keep in mind when someone buys a property they do an economic analysis of how they will monetize that property against the maximum zonable FAR (square footage) so suggestiing they make it half as big isn't just about look, it changes the economics. And, again, what they did in Plainsboro and Robbinsville was make economically feasible by the high density housing. Plainsboro had been trying to do that project for almost 20 years and it was only when they attached the high density housing to it that developers took interest given the extra costs and restrictions they were being asked to accept for the rest of the project.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 8:11 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For the poster who keeps referencing the Plainsboro Town Center as an example (and Robbinsville, which was its model and done by the same developer), you are mixing apples-and-oranges. Plainsboro still has strip malls, etc. too. The Town Center was one-specific development, not some overarching zoning plan. And it was accomplished because they made a specific deal with a single developer. The developer got what they wanted most -- housing -- in exchange for creating the high density mixed use office and retail plan along with it. All those houses you see behind the Center and down the road were the carrot. Same in Washington/Robbinsville. <br /> <br />So while it's a nice example, though still completely unproven yet as a financial success, it hardly is something that is applicable to an entire zoning plan for Route 130. And it won't be easy, or questionably even legal, unless you're willing to consider high density housing in the mix and do we really want that? <br /> <br />I think Cranbury's historic plan of conceding Route 130 and everything on the other side of it as a commercial zone that brings in ratables is a good one. Don't get greedy by believing we can have our cake and eat it too by now supposing we can dictate any terms we want and they will still come. I agree with a previous poster that we seem to be a bit NIMBY about in realistic project these days.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You aren't reading the comment at all. No one is saying you can dictate the terms of what you want- 7-11, hotel, mom and pop, etc... You are dictating what the concept and look can be. The physical look. That is not only legal, but done quite frequently. We even do it to an extent on Main St. Developers will work with the town to place structures that fit the design. You don't need high density housing to accomplish this. You just need to say this is how we want the area to look. You can still have strip malls, but ones that fit a common look. EW is a horrible mix of different style and look. <br /> <br />However, you seem to be for whatever happens happens.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 1:08 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">For the poster who keeps referencing the Plainsboro Town Center as an example (and Robbinsville, which was its model and done by the same developer), you are mixing apples-and-oranges. Plainsboro still has strip malls, etc. too. The Town Center was one-specific development, not some overarching zoning plan. And it was accomplished because they made a specific deal with a single developer. The developer got what they wanted most -- housing -- in exchange for creating the high density mixed use office and retail plan along with it. All those houses you see behind the Center and down the road were the carrot. Same in Washington/Robbinsville. <br /> <br />So while it's a nice example, though still completely unproven yet as a financial success, it hardly is something that is applicable to an entire zoning plan for Route 130. And it won't be easy, or questionably even legal, unless you're willing to consider high density housing in the mix and do we really want that? <br /> <br />I think Cranbury's historic plan of conceding Route 130 and everything on the other side of it as a commercial zone that brings in ratables is a good one. Don't get greedy by believing we can have our cake and eat it too by now supposing we can dictate any terms we want and they will still come. I agree with a previous poster that we seem to be a bit NIMBY about in realistic project these days.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 7 2010, 12:20 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Developers always start by asking for more than they expect to receive. They are professional negotiators. <br /> <br />This project will come to fruition and it will be nicer than what is there now, or what could be there without zoning variances. Hotels are permitted without a zoning variance. The liquor store is already there and it is built to be a catering hall. <br /> <br />The good news is, this project will look nice, be minimally invasive and generate tax revenue. The downside is, it may increase affordable housing obligations (which could turn the financials upside down) and is likely to drive the Marriott to rely more heavily on section 8 housing subsidies (which creates an unanticipated tax burden). <br /> <br />At least they aren't proposing a "suite" hotel with kitchenettes.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 1:56 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. <br /> <br />In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Why do we need another hotel? What about this banquet facility what impact will it have on our police? Will we need to hire more police?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Then buy the property and do with it what you think makes economic sense. These people are willing to put their money behind a hotel. The letter after yours doesn't what us turned into another East Windsor. I see that as a vote against a strip mall. Let us see now. No strip malls. No gas stations. No convenience stores. Now no Hotels. Exactly what can be built in Cranbury. Not meaning to be sarcastic, but at this point I don't think we can build anything. Please somebody tell me what would be an acceptable business on that site on the other side of 130.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Why does having a design and common look mean no strip malls or development? I think EW looks horrible there is no design or consistent look to EW. The strip malls all look different, outdated and crummy. Now I look at 33 in Robbinsville with shops and businesses going in and I look at Plainsboro's town center and see a nice look. Common designs and the area will all age the same. <br /> <br />You can be pro business and not want the area to look like junk. <br /> <br />Personally, I don't like a 4 story building. We don't have any in town now and why should we simply because someone wants to build it. However, 3 stories and using a design element that can be transposed onto other lots along 130 I think would be great.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 1:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. <br /> <br />In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Why do we need another hotel? What about this banquet facility what impact will it have on our police? Will we need to hire more police?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Then buy the property and do with it what you think makes economic sense. These people are willing to put their money behind a hotel. The letter after yours doesn't what us turned into another East Windsor. I see that as a vote against a strip mall. Let us see now. No strip malls. No gas stations. No convenience stores. Now no Hotels. Exactly what can be built in Cranbury. Not meaning to be sarcastic, but at this point I don't think we can build anything. Please somebody tell me what would be an acceptable business on that site on the other side of 130.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 1:14 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. <br /> <br />In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Or does Cranbury need to develop a concept of what 130 should look like instead of allowing it to become like East Windsor with a mish mash of buildings built simply because a developer approached the town? The trend seems to be towns designing the look for an area and then working with builders and developers to fit that area. For example Plainsboro did that with the town center and Robbinsville is doing that with Rt 33 where it used to be run down and is now being redeveloped.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 1:00 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. <br /> <br />In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Why do we need another hotel? What about this banquet facility what impact will it have on our police? Will we need to hire more police?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 10:24 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">At the risk of starting a flame war, I like the idea of this project. Let me first say I am a screaming liberal, who has backed preserving as much farmland as possible and having the village remain a village. <br /> <br />In order to do this type of preservation, the deal we had to make with the devil was to build warehouses on the otherside of 130 and to develop our commercial space on 130. This project is on the otherside of 130 is placed on a site that is a rundown eyesore. If we don't allow this to be built, we should just admit we don't want anything built anywhere in Cranbury.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 6 2010, 9:53 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">CRANBURY — Plans to build a four-story Hyatt Palace Hotel, a two-story banquet facility and restaurant and a two-story wine shop at the intersection of Route 130 East and Half Acre Road were sent back to the drawing board after an informal survey of Zoning Board of Adjustment members at Wednesday night’s meeting indicated most would prefer a smaller hotel. <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2010/08/06/cranbury_press/news/doc4c5afde919ee9654920203.txt" target="_blank">http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2010/08/06/cranbury_press/news/doc4c5afde919ee9654920203.txt</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 4 2010, 8:16 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Zoning Board Meeting</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I could not attend the meeting tonight. Can someone who attended post what happened at tonight's meeting please?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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