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[quote="Guest"]David Kilby, Managing Editor CRANBURY — After listening to many complaints and noticing many dangers regarding the district’s bus service, the Cranbury Board of Education has decided to change vendors. At the board meeting Tuesday, the board approved a contract with George Dapper Inc. to provide school transportation for the 2011-12 school year. The contract covers nine routes per school day for a total of $307,129.63 per year or $1,973.08 per school day. For field trip transportation, the board approved a contract with Irvin Raphael Inc. for $295 per bus and $3 per mile. George Dapper Inc. and Irvin Raphael Inc., came in lowest among six bidders for each respective contract. George Dapper Inc., provided bus services to the district two years ago. http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2011/08/19/cranbury_press/news/doc4e4d7fcad7ca3674754937.txt[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 5:12 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Please specify the bus number that has issues.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Already did. Read previous posts. #2</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Does the bus route have too many stops? If so, you and your neighbors (or anyone on this route) should write a complain letter (signed by parents) to the BoE.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 4:22 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">People complaining to the school board seems to be how we ended up in our current situation. Is it possible people forgot how lousy Dapper was? Or maybe they didn't get to experience it for themselves. <br /> <br /><a href="http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation" target="_blank">http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This seems like change for the sake of change without any real plan. I remember when everyone used to know their bus driver and developed a relationship with them through the years. With all these changes its impossible for a child to get to know their drivers.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />We did know the bus driver last year. She lived, and still lives, in Cranbury. In all the years of the service, she is the only one who ever responded to any attempt by the parents on our street to get to knwo them. She cared about the kids and got them there on time. Now she's out of work.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It's unfortunate that kids are now late to school and a hard working Cranbury resident had to lose her job over this. Because one driver allegedly backed in to a tree, which there was no evidence of.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:42 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">People complaining to the school board seems to be how we ended up in our current situation. Is it possible people forgot how lousy Dapper was? Or maybe they didn't get to experience it for themselves. <br /> <br /><a href="http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation" target="_blank">http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This seems like change for the sake of change without any real plan. I remember when everyone used to know their bus driver and developed a relationship with them through the years. With all these changes its impossible for a child to get to know their drivers.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />We did know the bus driver last year. She lived, and still lives, in Cranbury. In all the years of the service, she is the only one who ever responded to any attempt by the parents on our street to get to knwo them. She cared about the kids and got them there on time. Now she's out of work.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:28 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">People complaining to the school board seems to be how we ended up in our current situation. Is it possible people forgot how lousy Dapper was? Or maybe they didn't get to experience it for themselves. <br /> <br /><a href="http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation" target="_blank">http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This seems like change for the sake of change without any real plan. I remember when everyone used to know their bus driver and developed a relationship with them through the years. With all these changes its impossible for a child to get to know their drivers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 1:50 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Please specify the bus number that has issues.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Already did. Read previous posts. #2</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 1:46 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">People complaining to the school board seems to be how we ended up in our current situation. Is it possible people forgot how lousy Dapper was? Or maybe they didn't get to experience it for themselves. <br /> <br /><a href="http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation" target="_blank">http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-school-board-examines-transportation</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 1:17 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Please specify the bus number that has issues.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 12:57 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Stop complaining here and go to the next board of Education meeting. <br /> <br />Let them know your concerns.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 12:46 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The bus service has been just as good if not better then last year stop complaining</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sinmply not true. Last year was the best year we've had it in at least 5 years. Perhaps it wasn't for you, but it was for us. Last year we had a driver who cared, who lived here locally, who interacted with the kids aand who managed to deliver them on time. <br /> <br />So you're saying you have no problem with kids being 15 minutes late every day and missing tests. Or as long as it isn't your kid it's fine.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 12:21 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The bus service has been just as good if not better then last year stop complaining</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 11:28 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Getting rid of the Negba without any plan for something better seems pretty shortsighted.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 11:25 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">First day delays are understandable - it is not acceptable, but understandable if drivers did not spend time getting familiar with their routes as they should have done. <br /> <br />But to have these problems continue into week 2 is hard to justify. Affected people should definitely document the problem and inform the school/school board. <br /> <br />I wonder if there are non-performance clauses in the contract.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 11:09 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Yesterday my kids didn't make it to class until 8:45 straight from getting off the bus. One of them walked in half way through a quiz. They have yet to arrive on time. <br /> <br />If the school is going to tolerate the bus regularly delivering kids late as it did the last time they used this company they need to be fair to the kids and not penalize them for their late arrivals by missing classwork.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 10:57 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The problems seemed to continue in to this week as well. Why exactly did we switch? Was it just a cost issue? I remember hearing something about some parents wanting to switch but I never got the details. Can anyone enlighten me?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Sep 9 2011, 8:20 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The bus never showed up today at all. That's two days for two it failed to deliver kids before school started.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Do you know the bus number? Our bus arrived on time so far.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />#2 <br /> <br />It probably doesn't help that it has a ridiculously wide route that goes from the school to Route 130 at the end of Main to Old Cranbury, up Old Trenton, across Ancil Davison, up Cranbury Neck to George Davison, George Davison to Plainsboro Road and down Plainsboro, etc. It seems to circumnavigate almost all of residential Cranbury, some of Plainsboro and part of East Windsor.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Sep 9 2011, 12:34 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: CRANBURY: District changes its school bus vendors</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Is there any recourse built into the bus contract - for example, penalty for these types of problems?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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