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[quote="Attendee-081r"]I'll respond to the above having attended the meeting. First, there was no vote. The TC said there would be further discussion with a formal vote on nov. 26. From what I recall this is the discussion. - windows will be monitored to ensure they are not broken. - roofs must be intact and weather resistant. This was a big issue as Mr. Taylor stated his view this was too costly a repair for a town to mandate. - if you build anything then when the project is done you must clear materials. So lumber, paving stones, cannot be kept even in your backyard. - grass must be mowed at a certain height. - fences will be monitored to ensure they are upright and have all their parts. There are more that I forget and the poster above hit some. However, I am concerned over a slippery slope. If we can mandate windows and roofs then why not paint? What is stopping this from expanding? Mr. Mulligan stated in whole this is for 6 properties and Mr. Johnson stated his view it was to stop future decline and preserve buildings. My own comments: I got the impression from Mr. Johnson that this is a first step. He did not say that, but he talked of a goal to preserve structures. This to me is a big concern. They are adding a new ordinance and not changing an existing one as I think a prior poster suggested. Mr. Mulligan and Mr. Johnson are staunch supporters and we need this now. Ms. Goetz seemed inclined to listen. She didn't offer any comments that I recall. She seemed neutral. Mr. Cook seemed supportive. He questioned fences and penalties. He said more comment was needed. Mr. Taylor questioned a lot of the wording. He stated a desire to address the issue by focusing legislation on unoccupied buildings. He did comment that more public input was needed. Mr. Mulligan and Johnson were lauded by the audience. Mr. Taylor was actually being attacked by the people in the audience and in public comment twice. Both Tom and Cindy were there and when given an opportunity to comment with others neither said a word. If they were opposed they had an opportunity to state it and at least show a contrast with Mr. Cook. I got the impression that this is supported by only one area of town and that the only solution for them is to have everyone live in a town wide HOA. Two residents spoke up concerned about it.[/quote]
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Kyle-s90s
Posted: Sun, Jun 2 2013, 9:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
When I moved here, the township engineer through zoning dictated many things about my property that really seemed to exceed what a reasonable person would think was in within their authority to do.
I am not a big political, anti big governement type person. But reasonable common sense should prevail.
The rules and ordnance bucket just keeps growinng and growing it seems.
anon-0n08
Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2013, 1:34 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
anon-59no wrote:
anon-97on wrote:
anon-37p2 wrote:
Stupidest thin ever that's what happens when you elect a bunch of idiot's.
I'd take them any day over someone who would anonymously call someone an idiot in an online forum.
He is right. We don't elect a council to spend more money on silly things like this. I guess your a little slow so even though its already been pointed out now the town has to pay someone to enforce this also when people who are issued a summons decide to challenge the summons now the town will have to pay attorney fees.
So now all the Township Committee members are "idiots" (even though they didn't even all vote for this) and anyone who disagrees with calling them idiots is "slow."
Usually name callers are saying a lot more about themselves than those they insult. I guess you're not too sure of your opinion to be wielding it only anonymously. Why not say these things to these people's faces if you have conviction in your opinions? There's an open public forum for this at the Monday Committee meetings.
There was an election. Two of those idiots just got re-elected. So I guess most of the people in Town must be "slow." Doesn't sound like you kind of place unfortunately.
anon-59no
Posted: Thu, Jan 24 2013, 12:18 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
anon-97on wrote:
anon-37p2 wrote:
Stupidest thin ever that's what happens when you elect a bunch of idiot's.
I'd take them any day over someone who would anonymously call someone an idiot in an online forum.
He is right. We don't elect a council to spend more money on silly things like this. I guess your a little slow so even though its already been pointed out now the town has to pay someone to enforce this also when people who are issued a summons decide to challenge the summons now the town will have to pay attorney fees.
anon-97on
Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 8:43 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
anon-37p2 wrote:
Stupidest thin ever that's what happens when you elect a bunch of idiot's.
I'd take them any day over someone who would anonymously call someone an idiot in an online forum.
anon-37p2
Posted: Sun, Jan 20 2013, 6:27 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Stupidest thin ever that's what happens when you elect a bunch of idiot's.
Jd-8o98
Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 6:39 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Just like any law we wouldn't need it if everyone would just do what your suppose to do.
anon-01q2
Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 8:10 am EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Reminder that the second reading of the new "Maintenance Code" and public comments is this Monday, Dec 10th at 7:00pm. Be there! Public comment is needed.
anon-86qr
Posted: Sun, Dec 2 2012, 11:06 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Itiotcouncil-7708 wrote:
anon-7183 wrote:
THISISCRAZY!-7708 wrote:
Back to the main topic this property b.s.code is just that b.s. I see that the town has to hire someone to enforce this. Talk about a waste of money. People don't like to be told what they can do with land that they own, and could lead to lawsuits against the township.
Nope not true an existing employee will do this
Just what we need. They will not do this for free so how much will the town pay them to do this????
The council can just raise taxes again for the staff time to enforce this and legal support for the potential lawsuits.
Is this really what we need now?
Itiotcouncil-7708
Posted: Sun, Dec 2 2012, 5:25 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
anon-7183 wrote:
THISISCRAZY!-7708 wrote:
Back to the main topic this property b.s.code is just that b.s. I see that the town has to hire someone to enforce this. Talk about a waste of money. People don't like to be told what they can do with land that they own, and could lead to lawsuits against the township.
Nope not true an existing employee will do this
Just what we need. They will not do this for free so how much will the town pay them to do this????
anon-7183
Posted: Sat, Dec 1 2012, 9:20 am EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
THISISCRAZY!-7708 wrote:
Back to the main topic this property b.s.code is just that b.s. I see that the town has to hire someone to enforce this. Talk about a waste of money. People don't like to be told what they can do with land that they own, and could lead to lawsuits against the township.
Nope not true an existing employee will do this
THISISCRAZY!-7708
Posted: Fri, Nov 30 2012, 6:27 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Back to the main topic this property b.s.code is just that b.s. I see that the town has to hire someone to enforce this. Talk about a waste of money. People don't like to be told what they can do with land that they own, and could lead to lawsuits against the township.
anon-8q9r
Posted: Tue, Nov 20 2012, 1:03 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
anon-qq82 wrote:
Can someone explain what is the proper way to stack branches for brush pick-up.
D. Brush collection requirements:
(1) Brush shall be chipped. Placement of brush shall be allowed no sooner than the weekend preceding the third Wednesday of each month, or as otherwise scheduled or announced. It is recommended residents notify the Public Works Department of requests for chipping services by the Monday before the third Wednesday of the month.
(2) Materials should be tree branches and shrub branches preferably longer than three feet. All materials should be stacked at the curb or as near to the curb as possible, along the curb abutting the property owner's lot. Hedge clippings, twigs, small branches less than three feet (but not less than one foot) must be bundled with string only (no wire) and must be free of foreign debris, such as stones, dirt, metal, sweepings and rakings. No lumber, construction material, roots, stumps, mulch, sand, landscape construction material and debris, or soil left at the curb will be collected. All material to be chipped should be placed at the curb and no closer than ten feet to a storm drain inlet by 7:00 a.m. on the collection day. Any material placed at the curb that does not conform with these specifications will not be picked up by the Township.
(3) Brush and limbs placed at the curb must be aligned parallel and facing with the flow of traffic.
E. Leaf or brush collection may not occur in the event of Office of Emergency Management calls, natural disasters, vehicle blockages, acts of nature (such as snowfall) or other unforeseen occurrences.
anon-011q
Posted: Tue, Nov 20 2012, 12:09 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
guest22-617n wrote:
I agree that DPW should prioritize Main Street. Brush piles are taking up parking spots in the Business District and Main Street is much more heavily traveled then Shadow Oaks.
Shadow Oaks is easier to handle because of much less passing traffic.
Working on Main St. will likely require blocking traffic and police's presence to direct traffic.
anon-qq82
Posted: Tue, Nov 20 2012, 11:44 am EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
Can someone explain what is the proper way to stack branches for brush pick-up.
guest22-617n
Posted: Tue, Nov 20 2012, 10:07 am EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
I agree that DPW should prioritize Main Street. Brush piles are taking up parking spots in the Business District and Main Street is much more heavily traveled then Shadow Oaks.
anon2-old timer-q1sq
Posted: Sun, Nov 18 2012, 6:27 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Maintenance Code
This is the time that the Committee needs to take a position and get this straightened out so public works can do their job without being hampered by those who can't follow the rules. As I see it, don't fine anyone, just don't pick up or chip the bad piles. They will need to pay a private contractor to clean up the mess they have made for public works. I hope the committee has the guts to help out public works and the rest of the citizens who are following the rules.