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[quote="Jersey Dad"][b]Change the "range" of potential units at the Route 130 D Site [/b] [b][u]Why should we change the range?[/u][/b] * In the 2005 Plan, the range for Rt. 130 D was 29-48 units. * 48 is 12 units per acre, an unprecedented density for CHA. * 29 [i]was[/i] the minimum required without buying more property, according to the old rules. * The rules have changed. We must buy more property, anyway. Therefore, we have the opportunity to change the range at the Rt. 130 "D" Site [b]to be consistent with other CHA developments[/b]. [b][u]What should the range be? Why?[/u][/b] The range for the Rt. 130 “D” Site should be [b]“up to 29 units” [/b]because… 1. Consistent with other CHA Developments 2. Meets the needs of the Township 3. Amenable to the neighbors [u]Consistent with Other CHA Developments[/u] * CHA developments range from 16-24 units * The average CHA development is 19 units * The largest is 24 units (Bergen Drive, 3.6 acres) * The average CHA density is 7 units per acre * The Rt. 130 "D" Site is 4 acres (28 units at average density) [b]* A range consistent with other CHA developments is 16 – 28 units[/b] [u]Meets the needs of the Township[/u] * The Township is currently required to build some number of units prior to 2011 or 2012, to show progress to COAH * The current estimated requirement is roughly 23 units * “Up to 29 Units” allows Cranbury the flexibility to show progress to COAH [u]Amenable to the Neighbors [/u] * 75% of households in Cranbury Estates signed a petition stating they are "amenable to up to 29 units" * The petition is posted on this site and at [url]http://www.petitiononline.com/rt130d/petition.html[/url] * The petition is reasonable and consistent with positions taken by the Township The Planning Board has the authority and the opportunity to recommend a range that is consistent with the other CHA developments, meets the needs of the Township and honors the petition supported by the neighbors in Cranbury Estates. [b]On November 20th, please ask the Planning Board to change the range "up to 29 units!"[/b][/quote]
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Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 3:16 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
"It is my understanding that these recommendations came from our COAH consultants and not from CHA."
That makes sense now. Thanks for the info.
Jersey Dad
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 3:08 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
The original ordinance, which was eventually protested by neighbors (and other residents), and which the TC allowed to die, would have permitted 12 units per acre in buildings up to 40 feet tall. Based on the 2008 plan, it looks like these specifications may still be under consideration.
It is my understanding that these recommendations came from our COAH consultants and not from CHA. In fact, I think CHA expressed similar concerns to those expressed by the neighbors. I would imagine if the decision were left up the CHA, their preference would be to build a development that is consistent with the scale, density and quality of their other developments.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 2:58 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
The range is a concern, but I wonder if it was simply to satisfy the planning requirement.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 2:42 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Jersey Dad wrote:
At the last PB meeting, our planner and consultant confirmed that 29 was chosen because that was the minimum number required to satisfy the obligation without buying more property, under the old rules.
I don't know why 48 was chosen. None of the other CHA developments is even permitted to build at a density of 12 units per acre. The average density for CHA developments is 7 units per acre (which would be 28 units).
Given the CHA's expertise, it seems odd to choose such a high number (48). Were they thinking about multi-floor rental units?
Jersey Dad
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 8:02 am EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
At the last PB meeting, our planner and consultant confirmed that 29 was chosen because that was the minimum number required to satisfy the obligation without buying more property, under the old rules.
I don't know why 48 was chosen. None of the other CHA developments is even permitted to build at a density of 12 units per acre. The average density for CHA developments is 7 units per acre (which would be 28 units).
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 12 2008, 7:14 am EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
"* In the 2005 Plan, the range for Rt. 130 D was 29-48 units. "
What was the reasoning for the 29-48 range when the plan was written?
Jersey Dad
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 6:28 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Change the "range" of potential units at the Route 130 D Site
Why should we change the range?
* In the 2005 Plan, the range for Rt. 130 D was 29-48 units.
* 48 is 12 units per acre, an unprecedented density for CHA.
* 29
was
the minimum required without buying more property, according to the old rules.
* The rules have changed. We must buy more property, anyway.
Therefore, we have the opportunity to change the range at the Rt. 130 "D" Site
to be consistent with other CHA developments
.
What should the range be? Why?
The range for the Rt. 130 “D” Site should be
“up to 29 units”
because…
1. Consistent with other CHA Developments
2. Meets the needs of the Township
3. Amenable to the neighbors
Consistent with Other CHA Developments
* CHA developments range from 16-24 units
* The average CHA development is 19 units
* The largest is 24 units (Bergen Drive, 3.6 acres)
* The average CHA density is 7 units per acre
* The Rt. 130 "D" Site is 4 acres (28 units at average density)
* A range consistent with other CHA developments is 16 – 28 units
Meets the needs of the Township
* The Township is currently required to build some number of units prior to 2011 or 2012, to show progress to COAH
* The current estimated requirement is roughly 23 units
* “Up to 29 Units” allows Cranbury the flexibility to show progress to COAH
Amenable to the Neighbors
* 75% of households in Cranbury Estates signed a petition stating they are "amenable to up to 29 units"
* The petition is posted on this site and at
http://www.petitiononline.com/rt130d/petition.html
* The petition is reasonable and consistent with positions taken by the Township
The Planning Board has the authority and the opportunity to recommend a range that is consistent with the other CHA developments, meets the needs of the Township and honors the petition supported by the neighbors in Cranbury Estates.
On November 20th, please ask the Planning Board to change the range "up to 29 units!"
Cranbury Conservative
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 4:28 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Bonding means our money?
I hope we take full advantage of the States Affordable Housing Trust fund which was created through the new Affordable Housing legislation this year. We should be looking to get anything and everything paid if possible from that fund.
"Township currently has approximately $230,000 in the housing trust fund and anticipates an additional $6,024,000 in revenues before the expiration of substantive certification, for a total of $6,254,000. The municipality will dedicate a maximum of $21,945,450 [(150 future third round units x $145,903) + $60,000 for the rehabilitation program] towards the Township’s rehabilitation and 100% affordable housing program.
Any shortfall of funds will be offset by revenue or bonding"
.
Cranbury Conservative
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 4:27 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
2011 is not that far off. That is concering....
"Construction Schedule – CHA has developed a construction schedule for developing the Route 130 D site and anticipates that the site will begin construction in 2011. See Appendix F for the CHA Route 130 D Construction Schedules. The Construction Schedule notes each step in the development process including preparation of a site plan, granting of municipal approvals, applications for State and Federal permits, and beginning construction. CHA will be responsible for monitoring the construction and overall development activity."
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 10:15 am EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Guest wrote:
No, I was able to open it. It's a pdf file, if that makes a difference to you.
It failed to open for me using Acorbat Reader 8 but worked when I downloaed Reader 9. It uses some kind of newer security feature that makes it incompatible with older PDF readers.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 7:58 am EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
No, I was able to open it. It's a pdf file, if that makes a difference to you.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 11 2008, 7:47 am EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Anyone has trouble opening the document?
Guest
Posted: Fri, Nov 7 2008, 11:46 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
It's a 127 page document. Here is the "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY" page generated by my OCR software:
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Draft Housing Element and Fair Share Plan
Cranbury Township
Clarke Caton Hintz
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
This amended third round housing element and fair share plan has been prepared for
Cranbury Township, Middlesex County in accordance with the revised rules of the New
Jersey Council on Affordable Housing (hereinafter “COAH") at NJAC5:96 et seq. and
NJAC5:97 et seq. This plan is an amendment to the prior third round plan adopted by
the Planning Board and endorsed by the Township Committee in November 2005. This
Plan will serve as the foundation for the Township’s re-petition to COAH for substantive
certification pursuant to NJAC5:96 et seq. by December 31, 2008.
There are three components to a municipality’s affordable housing obligation: the
rehabilitation share, the prior round obligation and the third round obligation.
As assigned by COAH, the Township’s affordable housing obligations are as follows:
¤ Rehabilitation Share: 6 units
¤ Prior Round Obligation: 217 units
¤ Third Round Obligation: 269 units
The Township fully satisfied the prior round obligation through COAH-approved and
Township-funded regional contribution agreements with the City of Perth Amboy and
the Borough of Carteret, a mix of sale and rental units at the 100% affordable housing
developments on Bergen Drive and Danser Drive, affordable senior rental units at Park
Place West, affordable family rentals at Parkside at Bennett Place (a 100% affordable
development), and substantial compliance bonuses. In addition, an existing group home
(1997) will be added to the Township’s prior round affordable housing compliance
methods.
The third round obligation will be satisfied with affordable housing units from family
rentals at the Old Cranbury Road site, the Route 130 D site, an existing group home, a
future new 100% affordable family rental site and a future new 100% affordable senior
rental site.
DRAFT Page 1 of 56
Guest
Posted: Fri, Nov 7 2008, 10:40 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
The pdf file is password protected to prevent people from copying the text. I don't know why they want to do that, since the info is supposed to be public, not restricted.
Guest
Posted: Fri, Nov 7 2008, 9:42 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
http://www.cranburytownship.org/COAH-draft-third-round-plan-11-6-08.pdf
http://www.cranburytownship.org/COAH-Information.html
When I open the plan I get an error message: "Bad encrypt dictionary" and it won't open. And I have the latest version of Adobe...
It seems the township made the pdf file "secured". My Acrobat Reader 8.1.3 can read it.
Guest
Posted: Fri, Nov 7 2008, 9:24 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
Guest wrote:
The Draft Third Round COAH Plan has been posted.
http://www.cranburytownship.org/COAH-draft-third-round-plan-11-6-08.pdf
http://www.cranburytownship.org/COAH-Information.html
When I open the plan I get an error message: "Bad encrypt dictionary" and it won't open. And I have the latest version of Adobe...