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[quote="Other thoughts"]I would be interested to know that answer. Also, Cranbury has 3,200 residents and Hightstown has over 5,000. My only concern is whether the town tax dollars be subsidizing the Hightstown service? It's no longer simple mutual aid if Cranbury is the primary responder. It would be good if this goes through if the squad could hold an information session, plus it may also be an opportunity to get volunteers. And yes, I am a former member.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 10 2010, 4:39 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Just wondering wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">can we be guaranteed that Cranbury residents will have coverage during the day if we decide to sign a contract with another town? What happens if our rescue squad is answering calls in hightstown? I don't want to wait for Monroe to help me if we already have our own paid rescue squad.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />you would be covered just as you would if the day crew were on a call for cranbury, volunteers and then mutual aid if needed. in the past we have at times answered well over 100 mutual aid calls in a year this is no differant the plan is in effect to cover our town. H-town averaged only 100 call in the 6-6 mon - fri period last year. Some of which we covered any way. thats only 2 a week compared to our 1-2 a day</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 10 2010, 7:34 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">We better hope that is not a fair statement, because I believe our COAH argument based on the survey of warehouses was a lot less. Not to say there are not more people here during the day. However, Hightstown also has a lot of people there during the day and the NJT also goes through just as Cranbury. So it's probably close to a wash and it doesn't matter. <br /> <br />If the First Aid squad feels they can make a profit great, if it turns out wrong there is no harm to Cranbury tax payers. They report the calls at the TC meeting anyway, so if it goes through I am sure we'll see how it all works for anyone who cares. Just relax.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 10 2010, 7:22 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">"Because I do not see it, it must not happen" <br /> <br />I am amazed at all the traffic, especially all the tractor trailers. That other side of Route 130 is a very busy area. <br /> <br />I just wish there were good places to eat or shop around here also.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 10 2010, 5:47 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">When these residents leave the township for work in the morning, they have not one clue about what occurs on a daily basis around the township.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 10:06 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Don't forget their are over 350 business operating in Cranbury everyday.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 10:00 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Just because it is not happening in "the village" doesn't mean it isn't Cranbuy. 10-15k during the weekday is probably fairly accurate.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 7:17 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The First Aid Squad is a seperate entity from the township. The township Commitee has no say over the First Aid Squad. The Township donates a certain amount of money to the squad. The squad volunteers and paid employees are not employees of the township. While the township may have a population of 3200 this does not adequatelly reflect the real daytime population which the squad, fire, and police are responsible. With the daytime workers in the warehouses and offices it is probably closer to 10,000-15,000. With that said the First Aid Squad is funding it's own paid employees at no burden to the taxpayers of Cranbury. If the volunteers feel that the best option for maintaining a viable self funded service is covering Hightstown Borough then the taxpayers of Cranbury who are not members of the squad have no say. That is unless the taxpayers of Cranbury want the township to start a township EMS Service which will be funded exclusivelly by tax dollars.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />10,000 - 15,000 in the township during the day?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 12:33 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The First Aid Squad is a seperate entity from the township. The township Commitee has no say over the First Aid Squad. The Township donates a certain amount of money to the squad. The squad volunteers and paid employees are not employees of the township. While the township may have a population of 3200 this does not adequatelly reflect the real daytime population which the squad, fire, and police are responsible. With the daytime workers in the warehouses and offices it is probably closer to 10,000-15,000. With that said the First Aid Squad is funding it's own paid employees at no burden to the taxpayers of Cranbury. If the volunteers feel that the best option for maintaining a viable self funded service is covering Hightstown Borough then the taxpayers of Cranbury who are not members of the squad have no say. That is unless the taxpayers of Cranbury want the township to start a township EMS Service which will be funded exclusivelly by tax dollars.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Other thoughts</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 11:11 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I would be interested to know that answer. Also, Cranbury has 3,200 residents and Hightstown has over 5,000. <br /> <br />My only concern is whether the town tax dollars be subsidizing the Hightstown service? It's no longer simple mutual aid if Cranbury is the primary responder. <br /> <br />It would be good if this goes through if the squad could hold an information session, plus it may also be an opportunity to get volunteers. And yes, I am a former member.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Just wondering</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, May 9 2010, 10:23 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">can we be guaranteed that Cranbury residents will have coverage during the day if we decide to sign a contract with another town? What happens if our rescue squad is answering calls in hightstown? I don't want to wait for Monroe to help me if we already have our own paid rescue squad.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cranbury Press</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, May 7 2010, 3:33 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hightstown considers Cranbury EMS contract <br />Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:51 PM EDT <br />By Joanne Degnan, The Packet Group <br /> <br /> CRANBURY — The township First Aid Squad may be the front-runner for providing ambulance services to the borough of Hightstown. <br /> <br /> Cranbury first aid officials are proposing a plan that would provide coverage for 12 hours a day, five days a week, for $32,500 a year. The proposal means Hightstown volunteers would have to start providing emergency medical service coverage more nights and weekends. <br /> <br /> The other two agencies who offered proposals — Robbinsville Township, which provides the service now, and East Windsor — would cost significantly more. <br /> <br /> For the past three years, Hightstown has contracted with Robbinsville Township for emergency medical services. Robbinsville, which staffs an ambulance located in the borough with two paid EMTs contracted through Trenton-based Capital Health, provides coverage three nights and seven days a week. Hightstown volunteers handle calls four nights a week. <br /> <br /> If approved, the change would mean Hightstown volunteers now scheduled to work on “fixed-duty crews” four nights a week would instead switch to a pager system that would alert all volunteers to emergency calls nights and weekends, Hightstown First Aid Squad Capt. Curtis Crowell told Borough Council. If there were not enough Hightstown volunteers available, neighboring communities would be contacted to respond under mutual aid agreements. <br /> The contract with Robbinsville expires June 11. Robbinsville has offered to renew the seven-day-a-week agreement at a cost of $93,000 a year. If Hightstown wants to reduce coverage to five days a week, the price would drop to $85,000, according to Robbinsville Fire Director John Archer, who attended the Borough Council meeting. <br /> <br /> A Hightstown contract would generate income for the Cranbury squad and offset much of the cost of moving from an all-volunteer ambulance corps to one that pays emergency medical personnel on a per diem basis. <br /> <br /> Hightstown Borough Council President Larry Quattrone said Monday that the Cranbury contract could save the borough $60,500 a year. <br /> <br /> ”Our volunteers have been recruiting people, and they are going to step forward and answer more of the calls,” Mr. Quattrone told the Borough Council. <br /> <br /> Mr. Quattrone said he thought the Hightstown volunteers had increased their ranks sufficiently to handle all weeknight and weekend EMS calls on their own so it made sense to go with a less expensive contract offering weekday-only coverage. <br /> <br /> The squad now has seven certified EMTs and two drivers, according to Gene Sarafin, the vice president of the squad’s executive board. <br /> <br /> ”I have no complaints at all with Robbinsville,” Mr. Quattrone said. “The reason I’m recommending Cranbury five days a week at $32,500 is just simple economics.” <br /> <br /> Mr. Quattrone said he also approached East Windsor for a quote on providing weekday EMS coverage and was told the price would be $45,000. There were no representatives from East Windsor Township at the Borough Council meeting. <br /> <br /> Charlie Smith, president of the Cranbury First Aid Squad, told Borough Council that signing an agreement with his organization would mean more personalized service than either East Windsor or Robbinsville could provide. <br /> <br /> ”If you’re dealing with the Cranbury First Aid Squad, you’re dealing directly with the contractor, not a township that is dealing with a subcontractor,” Mr. Smith said, referring to the proposals from Robbinsville and East Windsor. <br /> <br /> The Cranbury squad employs eight per-diem EMTs, Mr. Smith said in an interview Tuesday. The squad would respond to Hightstown calls from its Maplewood Avenue building in Cranbury, about 3½ miles from the borough. <br /> <br /> Mayor Bob Patten questioned whether the proposals from Robbinsville Township and the Cranbury First Aid Squad were “apples to apples” comparisons. <br /> <br /> ”We’re putting an ambulance in your house at Hightstown,” Mr. Archer replied, referring to the First Aid Squad building at 168 Bank St. “That’s the main difference.” <br /> <br /> In terms of patient billing, both the Cranbury and Robbinsville proposals are the same, according to Mr. Smith and Mr. Archer. Under both plans, Hightstown residents who need an ambulance would be “soft-billed,” meaning they would be charged only the amount Medicare or their insurer reimburses them for the medical service. No bills would be sent to Hightstown residents without health insurance. Nonresidents would be sent a bill for the full cost of the ambulance service. <br /> <br /> The volunteer Hightstown First Aid Squad, which has its own ambulance, does not bill residents when it responds to calls during the times it is on duty, Mr. Sarafin said Wednesday. <br /> Borough Council members said they wanted to review the proposals further at their next meeting May 17. <br /> <br />Staff Writer Maria Prato contributed to this report. <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2010/05/07/cranbury_press/news/doc4be338a2c7847599620561.txt" target="_blank">http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2010/05/07/cranbury_press/news/doc4be338a2c7847599620561.txt</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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