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[quote="Pew Research-052s"][quote="ilovethelibrary-0o99"]http://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/cover-stories/hc-hm-nh-libraries-community-centers-20150220-story.html#page=1[/quote] For some additional context, here's the chart from the Pew study cited in the article... [url]http://www.pewinternet.org/files/2014/03/PI-library-typology-03-13-2014-00-02.png[/url][/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-p41n</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 8:24 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-npo2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"The library is no more dangerous than recess on the playground or the daily gathering at the walker-door" exactly! <br />The public library is no more dangerous than any other public place - exactly!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I think you could be on to something here. The walker door is clearly the biggest security threat to Cranbury's school children. Let's move to scrap the whole idea and instead require that parents pick up their kids from a designated locked-down indoor area with access requirements like photo IDs, finger prints and retinal scans. Cost is no object when it comes to the illusion of the safety of our children. You just can't contrive to be too safe these days!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-npo2</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 8:22 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A school must take the part of the parent during the day, and wants to assure the safety of the students; the school has to be hyper vigilant during the school day and thus the extra safety precautions. This is just the facts. Public places within a school's domain are safety concerns. No scare tactics. Just facts.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-npo2</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 8:06 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">"The library is no more dangerous than recess on the playground or the daily gathering at the walker-door" exactly! <br />The public library is no more dangerous than any other public place - exactly!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pew Research-052s</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 4:32 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ilovethelibrary-0o99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/cover-stories/hc-hm-nh-libraries-community-centers-20150220-story.html#page=1</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />For some additional context, here's the chart from the Pew study cited in the article... <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/files/2014/03/PI-library-typology-03-13-2014-00-02.png" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://www.pewinternet.org/files/2014/03/PI-library-typology-03-13-2014-00-02.png</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-052s</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 4:27 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-ppq2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If security in the library were not an issue, then why cannot the school students enter their library without being escorted by a teacher? <br />Why is the school installing security cameras in the library if were not a concern?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I should think a teacher/librarian would accompany kids into a school library, whether the library is public or not. I should also think the school would install security cameras at every entry point, including the library, the gym, the front door, etc. The library is no more dangerous than recess on the playground or the daily gathering at the walker-door, but you don't see people arguing to spend $3.5 million to build a bubble over the playground. So, please stop trying to use scare tactics to support your position. It's shameless nonsense.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-ppq2</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 2:18 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If security in the library were not an issue, then why cannot the school students enter their library without being escorted by a teacher? <br />Why cannot an adult, perhaps with her young preschooler, enter the children's area when students are there? <br />Why is the school installing security cameras in the library if were not a concern? <br /> <br />I read the article. <br />"Several are embedded at city schools, a crucial need since 73 percent of public school libraries in the city have been closed, Poland said." <br />i.e. desperate situation. <br /> <br />"'When you see libraries in the public education continuum, for the reasons are there....that's an important part of the democratic aspect of who we are,' Poland said." <br /> <br />Yes, public libraries are part of the continuum, but for each to function fully, they need the space to do so. They don't need to be in the same space. Security concerns are on top of that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-052s</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 12:51 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-ppq2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Progressive model it is not. Placing a public library in this Connecticut city high school was due to dire fiscal restraints and the lack of a school library. <br /> <br />Placing a public library in our elementary school does not match the safety standards of the rest of the building. It does not allow either library - the school library or the public library to function fully. The school library does not match NJ standards for school libraries for either the elementary or middle schools.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />If you read the article that Library Lover posted, the director of the Hartford Library system obviously strongly supports having public libraries in public schools in CT, where school security is tragically a high profile issue. <br /> <br />Having our library in the school only seems to be characterized as a "security risk" by this who wish to scare parents into supporting a free-standing library. It's shameful and it makes me want to actively campaign against this project.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-ppq2</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 26 2015, 9:18 am EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Progressive model it is not. Placing a public library in this Connecticut city high school was due to dire fiscal restraints and the lack of a school library. <br /> <br />Placing a public library in our elementary school does not match the safety standards of the rest of the building. It does not allow either library - the school library or the public library to function fully. The school library does not match NJ standards for school libraries for either the elementary or middle schools.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Feb 25 2015, 4:32 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ilovethelibrary-0o99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/cover-stories/hc-hm-nh-libraries-community-centers-20150220-story.html#page=1</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Interesting article. Ironic that one of the progressive models noted in the article for the "new public library" is to embed the public library into the public schools. Quote from the article... <br /> <br />"When you see libraries in the public education continuum, for all the reasons that are there — finding jobs, entertainment, hatching ideas — that's an important part of the democratic aspect of who we are," <br />-Matt Poland, director of Hartford Public Library</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ilovethelibrary-0o99</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Feb 24 2015, 3:46 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/cover-stories/hc-hm-nh-libraries-community-centers-20150220-story.html#page=1" target="_blank">http://www.courant.com/hartford-magazine/cover-stories/hc-hm-nh-libraries-community-centers-20150220-story.html#page=1</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>let's be responsibl-53s8</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 19 2015, 9:55 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">As Margaret Thatcher said the problem with socialism is you run out of others peoples money. This library is no exception. Have you people ever heard of the internet? Well of course you have, or you wouldn't be communicating on this forum. <br /> <br />The cranbury school continues to lose students each year due to falling enrollment. State aid is declining especially to "j" and "I" school districts. This library/senior center/meeting room (whatever you wish to call it) is both unnecessary and irresponsible to consider in these harsh economic times. <br /> <br />This is the time to make responsible cuts to frivolous spending projects that will burden this town for decades to come. This will truly become the big OWE! <br /> <br />Let's celebrate our new year by acting like adults and not children with no fiscal discipline or emotional restraint. Let's put the library fund to help people who are homeless, hungry, and poor. 10% of our states residents are on food stamps. <br /> <br />Let's spend the money where it is needed. Stop the selfishness!!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-9407</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 19 2015, 8:48 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-sp0n wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-ppq2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Cranbury values reading. We value education. <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">The school library does not meet NJ School Library standards. <br />The public library in the school does not meet safety standards.</span> <br />This is a post 9/11 world and everything has changed. Cranbury is not a museum.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This is also a post Kindle world and everything has changed.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It's shameful to use 9/11 as an excuse for a new library building. <br /> <br />It's sad that supporters of a stand alone library try to scare parents into supporting their cause.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-sp0n</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 19 2015, 1:46 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-ppq2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Cranbury values reading. We value education. <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">The school library does not meet NJ School Library standards. <br />The public library in the school does not meet safety standards.</span> <br />This is a post 9/11 world and everything has changed. Cranbury is not a museum.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This is also a post Kindle world and everything has changed.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-ppq2</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 19 2015, 9:22 am EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Cranbury values reading. We value education. <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">The school library does not meet NJ School Library standards. <br />The public library in the school does not meet safety standards.</span> <br />This is a post 9/11 world and everything has changed. Cranbury is not a museum.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-052s</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Feb 19 2015, 12:18 am EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-npo2 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Public libraries reflect their communities.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Interesting point. Cranbury has chosen to remain a small town with an emphasis on shared services, preserved farmland and carefully planned commercial development, allowing for the unique combination of good schools and a low relative tax rate. Cranbury is the exception, not the rule; and our unique school/library situation is another example of great planning, cooperation and community. Spending millions of dollars for the sake of a stand alone library does not seem to reflect the community of Cranbury. <br /> <br />It is wonderful that many Chinese American families wish to share some of their cultural heritage and give back to the community. In year's past, such an event would have raised funds for quality programs run by the library, or the school, or the arts council, etc. Instead, the current library cuts hours and programs and services in favor of banking the money for a building which, put politely, would have debatable benefits to the community. <br /> <br />Best of luck to the organizers of the Chinese New Year Celebration and sincere wishes for an outstanding event. Perhaps the organizers will consider exploring other community causes in future years?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-npo2</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Feb 16 2015, 4:14 pm EST<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The Chinese Community in Cranbury invites you to their Chinese New Year Part</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Public libraries reflect their communities. Having a group of interested citizens of our town volunteer to provide an informative program that highlights their heritage is wonderful. This supports the mission of Cranbury Public Library now and supports the future library.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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