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[quote="curious-rr1s"]I am surprised that a number of posts related to a referendum were deleted. None, that I saw, were offensive or inappropriate. As an example, mine simply speculated that a referendum would not pass because people could vote privately. The candidates' night of a year or two ago was telling - one candidate opposed public funding for the project and was greeted with eye rolling, shaking heads, and a sense of incredulity that he didn't support it. Most people want to be civil, and at the same time not be judged for whatever their stance is on this matter.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-5p0n</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Oct 2 2017, 4:23 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-4os8 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is maintained for the town of Cranbury by the Cranbury Lions Club. <br /> <br />From the homepage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />What do you hope to accomplish with such an obvious lie? Anyone here has seen the homepage and knows it doesn't say that. If there is some hidden thing you are getting at, stop playing games and just show what you supposedly know. It's not even clever Trolling when what you write can be discredited in 2 seconds.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">It couldn't be more simple try again!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Is there some end game to this bizarre trolling attempt? Why does it feel like there's a 10-year-old behind these posts snickering at everyone looking for something that's not there?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-q2r7</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Oct 1 2017, 9:30 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-4os8 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is maintained for the town of Cranbury by the Cranbury Lions Club. <br /> <br />From the homepage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />What do you hope to accomplish with such an obvious lie? Anyone here has seen the homepage and knows it doesn't say that. If there is some hidden thing you are getting at, stop playing games and just show what you supposedly know. It's not even clever Trolling when what you write can be discredited in 2 seconds.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">It couldn't be more simple try again!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-4os8</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Oct 1 2017, 7:14 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is maintained for the town of Cranbury by the Cranbury Lions Club. <br /> <br />From the homepage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />What do you hope to accomplish with such an obvious lie? Anyone here has seen the homepage and knows it doesn't say that. If there is some hidden thing you are getting at, stop playing games and just show what you supposedly know. It's not even clever Trolling when what you write can be discredited in 2 seconds.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-q2r7</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Oct 1 2017, 3:27 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This site is maintained for the town of Cranbury by the Cranbury Lions Club. <br /> <br />From the homepage.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-s6p5</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 8:53 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-6696 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-1087 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is not run by the Lions. This is a private site.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">Yes it is run by the lions club, look on the home page.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Taking the bait just to get on with it... Looked on the home page. Saw nothing to establish what you say. Can you be specific?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />about us on the front page does not indicate it is owned or run by the lions. If they did run it then certainly they would have said so.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-6696</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 5:56 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-q2r7 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-1087 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is not run by the Lions. This is a private site.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">Yes it is run by the lions club, look on the home page.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Taking the bait just to get on with it... Looked on the home page. Saw nothing to establish what you say. Can you be specific?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-q2r7</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 4:15 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-1087 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This site is not run by the Lions. This is a private site.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">Yes it is run by the lions club, look on the home page.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-1087</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 27 2017, 7:36 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This site is not run by the Lions. This is a private site.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-q2r7</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 5:50 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Yes this is odd. This site is run by the Lions club, so I suppose we could find out who is deleting posts.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>curious-rr1s</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 26 2017, 7:06 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am surprised that a number of posts related to a referendum were deleted. None, that I saw, were offensive or inappropriate. As an example, mine simply speculated that a referendum would not pass because people could vote privately. The candidates' night of a year or two ago was telling - one candidate opposed public funding for the project and was greeted with eye rolling, shaking heads, and a sense of incredulity that he didn't support it. Most people want to be civil, and at the same time not be judged for whatever their stance is on this matter.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-6696</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Sep 25 2017, 9:56 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>anon-0064 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">When it's all set and done, what's the breakdown between privately raised money and tax payer funding?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The answer varies a bit depending on which document on the Library Foundation site you refer to. The two best are: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.cranburylibraryfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/funds-chart.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.cranburylibraryfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/funds-chart.jpg</a> <br /> <br />and <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.cranburylibraryfoundation.org/TableofGifts.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cranburylibraryfoundation.org/TableofGifts.pdf</a> <br /> <br />According to the table of gifts they have reserved (inclusive of money already spent on the project) $733K. However their funds chart lists $420K in reserve. Even if you presume all the $120K in sunk costs for the architect was taken from reserves, this would still add up to $580K, a material delta from the $733K listed in their other document. <br /> <br />Either way his would all be taxpayer contributions earmarked for library operations by state statute that they have collected by limiting their operating expenses (fewer hours, less programs, etc.). Additionally, their budget for construction assumes $475K the Township has agreed to pay to do all the grading and site prep, landscaping and parking for the library. Together that suggests, prior to any additional contributions from the Township or further taxpayer reserves contributions, ~1.05-$1.2MM is taxpayer contribution so far (depending which reserves figure is correct). <br /> <br />Their funds chart suggest they have received ~$1.5MM in donations so far and their table of gifts suggests they have another $250K in committed pledges not yet received, while their funds chart says unreceived pledges s $100K (some people make multi-year pledges so it's not unusual they wouldn't be received immediately).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-0064</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Sep 24 2017, 8:46 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">When it's all set and done, what's the breakdown between privately raised money and tax payer funding?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-88r5</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Sep 22 2017, 2:38 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Good question for candidates night. Though, even if they believe that it should be 100% paid for by the town there are 4 others who do not. So no bond would pass. The question is whether Mr. Cook and Mr. Taylor run again next year. Conceivably, if they do not then the library could have 3 pro library votes and it becomes a chance that we end up with the TC approving funding. But that is 2 years away and may not be an issue.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>anon-6p8q</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Sep 22 2017, 12:32 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Candidates position on library</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">What are the candidates for tc positions on the library?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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