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[quote="Guest"]It's all politics, folks. I am not fooled by Mr. Stannard's spin. I believe Cranbury residents are not that gullible, either.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Concerned</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Aug 14 2008, 3:29 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Before we give Linda Greenstein too much credit, we must remember what she has done (and not done) in the past. It will be great if she can now help Cranbury. <br /> <br />1) By all accounts, Wayne D’Angelo has ignored Cranbury, but, Linda Greenstein helped bring him to office. She was his running mate in 2007. D’Angelo did much better in Greenstein’s home territory of Plainsboro/Monroe than in his home territory of Hamilton. She helped D’Angelo win his seat. Check out her website: <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.lindagreenstein.com" target="_blank">www.lindagreenstein.com</a> <br /> <br />2) An abstention is not a “no”, nor is it a “yes”. It is a non-vote, not taking a position. Linda Greenstein should have voted against A-500. She should be supporting her constituents, not trying to please the party bosses. Linda Stender, another prominent Democratic assemblywoman, chose to vote no. Linda Greenstein could have worked with Linda Stender to rally some more Democrats (including her running mate Wayne D’Angelo) to vote no or amend the bill. Linda chose to abstain. This is not supporting the people who voted for her. <br /> <br />If Linda Greenstein is now truly willing to help Cranbury in the future, great. Perhaps all the residents who were angry at her motivated her to do the right thing. Let’s hope we will see some results.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jersey Dad</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 10:40 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>James wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Mr. Ritter as a candidate running for office is different. His thanks shows a stance and a view that he would take while in office. To me, his expressing thanks to Linda, if he did express thanks, is a sign of where his priorities lie as a candidate. It also concerns me as an inability to see beyond party lines. However, I was not at the meeting and I did not see a personal thank you in the notes. Therefore, I can't conclude anything. <br /> <br />In terms of Mr. Stannard, I find his actions at a minimal level to be unprofessional pandering and at the largest level bordering on the improper given his position and situation. He used his position sitting as an active TC member during an active TC meeting to express thanks for a fellow party member who failed to uphold the interests of the voters. He did so when that individual, Linda Greenstein, acted against Cranbury's interests and in her own self interest. Mr. Stannard set a precedent of condoning such actions and setting it as though it was the TC and town also agreeing to such actions. If he wanted to personally thank Linda outside of the meeting he is more than welcome. Mr. Stannard has set a dangerous tone or perhaps highlighted the current tone of our TC where party politics play a key role. In so doing he has essentially absolved Linda from accountability. <br /> <br />I also find it interesting that the TC has yet to offer thanks to Bill Baroni who actually did support us. But, I would never assume party politics has anything to do with this. <br /> <br />In terms of whether we should ignore it as another poster stated, I would disagree. Ignoring such actions only serves to support them at a time when we need Trenton to understand Cranbury is serious and that our residents are truly looking for help. <br /> <br />If the notes were edited toward the positive, then it is unethical behavior and we voters should remember this at the next two elections.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />James, <br />A couple of points of clarification... I did have a chance to attend the meeting and from what I can tell, everyone's comments were paraphrased. For example, my recollection is Stout made a point to applaud Baroni's efforts and also took a shot at De Angelo. I didn't see that in the notes. <br /> <br />I also thought the Conservative did a nice job of taking Greenstein to task for her vote, while also leaving the door open for redemption and reconciliation (my opinion). It is unfortunate that his comments were not captured in the minutes because his approach was quite tactful and I thought he set a good example, especially for our township officials. <br /> <br />Stannard was out of sorts all night, as was shown at the beginning of the meeting when he mixed up the meeting minutes twice. For what it is worth, I understand he may not have been 100 percent. That said, his response to the Conservative's comments were awkward, at best. <br /> <br />For the record, I thanked Greenstein, the TC and CHA for their efforts, too (also not in the notes). I doubt I can be accused of being overly gracious to the TC and CHA. Perhaps I have been overly gracious to Greenstein, but I don't see the benefit to burning her in effigy at this point. I also would have thanked Baroni, too, if he had been there, because I do appreciate his strong voice of support. <br /> <br />I believe all of our pols (except DeAngelo) want a reasonable obligation for Cranbury. However, to me the question is, who can make it happen? To this point, it does not appear that anyone has actually helped reduce our obligation. This fall, we will see who is effective and who is not. Then, we can vote for the people who help us the most and try to vote out those who let us down. <br /> <br />In the mean time, there is a lot of work to be done. If anyone wants to meet offline at an event other than a TC meeting to discuss what we can do to make a difference, I am happy to host or participate. Also, as a reminder, this round of COAH Comments are due by 8/15.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 6:28 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I agree with James (and am the one who allegedly "ripped" Ms. Lehman). I simply mentioned the minutes also listed that she thanked Ms. Greenstein. But I only took issue with a TC member doing so on the record. It's fine to say nothing but to publically credit her for the official record is wrong, as was leaving the previously speaker's criticism of her out of the record and not thanking Mr. Baroni who has done far more for Cranbury than Greenstein and actually did vote No. This just demonstrates that the Stout Three are actually members of Roberts machine and more interested in their political status in the NJ Democratic machine than the interests of Cranbury (I say this as a registered Democrat BTW). That is what I take issue with. Ms. Lehman should say whatever she wants as a private citizen, though the TC should not selectly edit to note her thanks for the record and leave out another private citizen's criticisms. <br /> <br />Unfortunately the only Democrat I can be proud of on the TC right now just resigned his Democratic status in disgust of what is going on. I am actually considering doing the same, following his excellent leadership. I still plan to vote for the Democrat nationally but my days of voting Democrat for State positions is passed.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>James</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 6:07 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My view is that a resident should have and does have the right to thank, not thank, to express or not express any feelings toward elected officials in an open forum. While I strongly disagree with the thanks, I can't say Kelly is wrong for doing so as that is her personal opinion. It was expressed as such and therefore it canbe neither wrong or right. I don't think it is right or proper for any of us to bring her or any other resident into the mix. <br /> <br />Mr. Ritter as a candidate running for office is different. His thanks shows a stance and a view that he would take while in office. To me, his expressing thanks to Linda, if he did express thanks, is a sign of where his priorities lie as a candidate. It also concerns me as an inability to see beyond party lines. However, I was not at the meeting and I did not see a personal thank you in the notes. Therefore, I can't conclude anything. <br /> <br />In terms of Mr. Stannard, I find his actions at a minimal level to be unprofessional pandering and at the largest level bordering on the improper given his position and situation. He used his position sitting as an active TC member during an active TC meeting to express thanks for a fellow party member who failed to uphold the interests of the voters. He did so when that individual, Linda Greenstein, acted against Cranbury's interests and in her own self interest. Mr. Stannard set a precedent of condoning such actions and setting it as though it was the TC and town also agreeing to such actions. If he wanted to personally thank Linda outside of the meeting he is more than welcome. Mr. Stannard has set a dangerous tone or perhaps highlighted the current tone of our TC where party politics play a key role. In so doing he has essentially absolved Linda from accountability. <br /> <br />I also find it interesting that the TC has yet to offer thanks to Bill Baroni who actually did support us. But, I would never assume party politics has anything to do with this. <br /> <br />In terms of whether we should ignore it as another poster stated, I would disagree. Ignoring such actions only serves to support them at a time when we need Trenton to understand Cranbury is serious and that our residents are truly looking for help. <br /> <br />If the notes were edited toward the positive, then it is unethical behavior and we voters should remember this at the next two elections.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 5:41 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>yankee wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">To ANONYMOUSLY rip Kelly Lehman for thanking Greenstein after all she has done is reprehensible. I doubt half the people in this town would even know what COAH is without her efforts. She is not elected to anything and has done all this for Cranbury on her own time. Keep your eye on the ball "guest".</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I didn't see anyone who "ripped" Kelly Lehman. They "ripped" the TC member and simply said "Ms. Lehman thanked her too" or something like that. Hardly a rip.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 12:51 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This is true and there is a lot of effort to re-establish a stable statewide funding source for open space and farm preservation. Two relevant points to add: (1) At least for farmland preservation, the state has on average funded about 60-65% of easement or acquisition costs, with the local (municipal and/or county) governments covering the balance. These local funds are often from dedicated portions of the property tax or, in some cases, local bonding. So the point is that there is still significant interest/need for land preservation and local funds in the coffers. I am optimistic that state funding will be re-established. <br /> <br />(2) With over 1700 farms (and 170,000 acres of farmland) preserved so far, it is counterintuitive that we should allow policies to pass that reduce their economic viability. This jeopardizes a huge public investment in farmland preservation.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 12:43 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">We have an opportunity to influence COAH regs and related laws. COAH's failure to exempt agricultural structures from the 2.5% fee, for example, reflects how hastily these rules were promulgated. Ag structures were previously exempt (a good thing in my view if we seek to advance agricultural preservation in this state). From what I understand, COAH was actually surprised this exemption was not in its current rules!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />According to the Cranbury Press - "The Garden State Preservation Trust, which finances preservation of open space and historic sites, will have no money left by the end of the year once appropriations are made for current projects and officials don’t expect any new funding for next year. "</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 12:38 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I too am upset with our representation in Trenton – I think it is unfortunate that we are putting all our eggs into one basket – Assemblywoman Linda Greenstein. We have put such expectations on her when we know she cannot go it alone and is currently out numbered. <br />She is only half of the equation – Where is our Assemblyman Wayne DeAngelo? <br /> <br />They both represent District 14 which includes Cranbury, Hamilton, Jamesburg, Monroe, Plainsboro, South Brunswick, West Windsor. These are all “Smart Growth” towns that Trenton wants to build out to become URBAN communities. Gone are the RCA’s to help rehab homes in URBAN communities, GONE is the farmland preservation, GONE is our overall “quality of life”, GONE is our “GARDEN STATE”. <br /> <br />Currently, If Trenton forces us to build 269 more COAH homes – that will bring us up to 365 COAH homes within Cranbury to date. That is a 3:1 residential ratio. What will they want in the next 10 years – a 1:1 ratio. Our home values will fall even further – we will be a residential area will be devalued due to the overwhelming existence of subsidized housing surrounded by warehousing – We will be considered a workforce neighborhood. <br /> <br />OK now about Assemblywoman Greenstein’s voting - On this instance, a “NO” vote or abstention would not have made a difference – the law still would have passed. So, I can understand her vote of abstention to send a clear message to Richards that she is not going to be a good girl and play his game. Also, I have to give her credit, she knew Cranburians were upset with her vote and personally faced the music by showing up at the last township meeting. <br /> <br />With that said - I expect our TC to put heavy pressure on BOTH our representatives to help save Cranbury. However, why hasn’t our TC not utilized Wayne DeAngelo – has anyone even met with him? I don’t care what he believes in or what his pet projects are; he represents communities of “Smart Growth” towns that are under attack by Trenton and needs to take action. <br /> <br />If we could just get both of our representatives on the same page – we might have a decent chance. It is now up to our lawmakers to do that right thing instead of playing politics. Can you hear us?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 12:14 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I personally have little patience for partisanship on most issues, most particularly on issues at the local level. That said, I'd urge us all to direct our efforts toward the common goal of informing COAH of the ill-conceived nature of Round 3 rules (and the Legislature of the ill-conceived nature of A-500 and its Senate equivalent). Disagreeing on who should be praised or chastised can wait... <br /> <br />We have an opportunity to influence COAH regs and related laws. COAH's failure to exempt agricultural structures from the 2.5% fee, for example, reflects how hastily these rules were promulgated. Ag structures were previously exempt (a good thing in my view if we seek to advance agricultural preservation in this state). From what I understand, COAH was actually surprised this exemption was not in its current rules! <br /> <br />Whether one agrees with me on this particular issue or not is not my concern. What it shows is that the rules were passed too quickly, and flawed in several respects (or indefensible in others, such as is the case with the warehouse job assumptions).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 11:46 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>yankee wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">To ANONYMOUSLY rip Kelly Lehman for thanking Greenstein after all she has done is reprehensible. I doubt half the people in this town would even know what COAH is without her efforts. She is not elected to anything and has done all this for Cranbury on her own time. Keep your eye on the ball "guest".</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Yankee, Glad you are protective of our residents - However, GUEST has the right to an opinion too. GUEST disagreed with the praises Linda Greenstein received at the meeting by BOTH the TC and Kelly Lehman. Just because Kelly Lehman is not an elected official, doesn't mean that people cannot disagree with her.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>yankee</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 11:27 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To ANONYMOUSLY rip Kelly Lehman for thanking Greenstein after all she has done is reprehensible. I doubt half the people in this town would even know what COAH is without her efforts. She is not elected to anything and has done all this for Cranbury on her own time. Keep your eye on the ball "guest".</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 11:23 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Cranbury Conservative wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Right before Mr Stannard made his comments I spoke and said I was disappointed in Assembly Women Greenstein's lack of voting against the bill. Unfortunately that was left out of the meeting minutes. It appears only the positive Greenstein comments actually make it into the official minutes for the meetings. ...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Wow! This is so unethical for the TC to do that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cranbury Conservative</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 11:03 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Right before Mr Stannard made his comments I spoke and said I was disappointed in Assembly Women Greenstein's lack of voting against the bill. Unfortunately that was left out of the meeting minutes. It appears only the positive Greenstein comments actually make it into the official minutes for the meetings. Additionally lets not forget Mr Ritter who is running for a TC seat this fall has openly thanked Assembly Women Greenstein at TC meetings.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 10:55 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It's all politics, folks. <br /> <br />I am not fooled by Mr. Stannard's spin. I believe Cranbury residents are not that gullible, either.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 10:50 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Mr. Edwin Schmierer, Esquire, the Attorney representing numerous towns who have joined together in a lawsuit under the State League of Municipalities, stated Cranbury Township has “stepped up” and done its requirement under COAH. To date, Cranbury Township has provided 232 affordable units above the 223 which were required, leaving a surplus of nine (9). The Township’s current obligation is 269 units. Mr. Schmierer indicated he was not concerned with the “sky falling” on Cranbury Township and commended Mark Berkowsky and CHA on a job well done. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So, let me get this straight - we currently have 1160 single family homes. COAH want us to build another 269 units on top of the 96 current COAH homes already with Cranbury. This will bring our TOTAL COAH:standard residential ratio to 3:1. This is outrageous. Mr. Schmierer - yes the "sky is falling" for Cranbury and many towns in NJ facing the same problems. <br /> <br />Even if we get hit by builders remedy the ratio would be 3:1. Trenton is trying to make us a to a low income town subsided by property owners. Where is our representatives? Why are they not fighting for us?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 13 2008, 9:50 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: The 7/28/08 Township Committee minutes have been posted.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Totally agree. I posted something similar after the unofficial summary here a while back. I think the claim that she is really helping us with that vote is total BS. She has always come to our meetings and always said she supports our interests but has repeatedly voted the party line even when they diametrically oppose the positions she says she supports in our meetings. The excuse is ALWAYS that she has to be a loyal party member to be "effective" for us and we are ALWAYS assured she will really help us behind the scenes. I challenged anyone to post a single example where she actually has followed-up with meaningful (i.e. more than letters or speeches) change in our favor and no one could come up with a single example. They could only defend the notion that we may as well trust her because we have no better option. Not good enough in my opinion... <br /> <br />And for our TC member to go out of his way to support her is absolutely disgusting. Ms. Lehman did as well. It's one thing to not expressly call her to task for her vote but to actually praise her is utterly inconsistent with the interests of the Township. I so wish we had a elected officer recall process here as I would personally begin a signature drive.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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