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Posted: Mon, Aug 1 2011, 7:11 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
He also has a GINORMOUS carbon footprint.
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 1:02 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
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The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
This is the same supreme court which brought New Jersey the worse affordable housing rules in the country, rules which are really just a front for big developer interests? The same court that brought us the Abbott school funding laws that have been a disaster, and are just a front for special interests as well? You keep dreaming the dream.
I think you need to separate the court decision, especially the original court decision from the way the New Jersey legislature and successive governors chose to implement the decision.
The original decision was most definitely not a front for big developers. The implementation most definitely was. While I am sure there were some competent hard working people at COAH, all of my interactions with them were with fire breathing zealots or near complete incompetents, not a good combination.
The court has made many subsequent activist decisions that reinforced the developer interest in the affordable housing laws, so their hands are hardly clean. Consider the massive “Princeton Junction” development that was finally finishes just a few years ago. West Windsor fought the developer for 16 years before the state supreme court forced them to let the development proceed. It was a typical builder’s remedy project, developing a quota of lower income apartments with a much higher ratio of larger at-market McMansions (“the Estates at Princeton Junction,” “the Meadows at Princeton Junction” etc.) on postage stamp size lots, resulting in over 1,000 new households that the Township didn’t want and years of taxpayer pain to their public works, services and schools. They are still dealing with the fall-out as they have to massively re-work storm drainage, re-do roads and traffic patterns, and adjust to swelling school enrollment. Granted, West Windsor should have given up the fight years before given the favorable climate to developers in New Jersey and tried to negotiate more consessions from the developer to cover all the subsequent public works projects that resulted. But the underlying fact is the state supreme court is notoriously favorable to developers. New Jersey has a national reputation for being “developer friendly” which is a euphemism for being in developer’s (and the trade unions that benefit from developer projects) pockets.
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 12:50 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
This is the same supreme court which brought New Jersey the worse affordable housing rules in the country, rules which are really just a front for big developer interests? The same court that brought us the Abbott school funding laws that have been a disaster, and are just a front for special interests as well? You keep dreaming the dream.
And there is no such thing as global warming, the earth was created 6000 years ago, the science of creationism should be taught in our schools, the debt ceiling does not have to be raised, John Kerry was not a war hero, there are death panels in the new healthcare legislation, all Muslims are terrorists, the economy doesn't need a stimulus, republicans propose legislation until President Obama supports it and then they are against it, corporations are people with equal first amendment rights - the same as real people, President Obama isn't an American citizen, unemployed people just don't want to work so they don't deserve unemployment insurance, affordable housing in NJ has been bad for communities and is merely a tool for special interest developers, Norway's right wing Christian terrorist can't be a Christian because Christians could never commit such horrid acts.............
You are really trying to lump the reality of New Jersey’s affordable housing debacle with all these other crackpot theories? You realize that just makes you sound crazy, which is the opposite of what you were trying to convey. All the other items you listed are beliefs of extreme fringes while it is only extremist fringes that don’t believe NJ’s affordable housing policies have been bad and manipulated for the benefit of developers. New Jersey is the most over-developed housing state in the country. Ever heard of the “builder’s remedy”? You either have no idea what you’re talking about or are some kind of extremist.
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 12:49 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
This is the same supreme court which brought New Jersey the worse affordable housing rules in the country, rules which are really just a front for big developer interests? The same court that brought us the Abbott school funding laws that have been a disaster, and are just a front for special interests as well? You keep dreaming the dream.
I think you need to separate the court decision, especially the original court decision from the way the New Jersey legislature and successive governors chose to implement the decision.
The original decision was most definitely not a front for big developers. The implementation most definitely was. While I am sure there were some competent hard working people at COAH, all of my interactions with them were with fire breathing zealots or near complete incompetents, not a good combination.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 12:42 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
If we say it here, it must be true, right?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 12:29 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
This is the same supreme court which brought New Jersey the worse affordable housing rules in the country, rules which are really just a front for big developer interests? The same court that brought us the Abbott school funding laws that have been a disaster, and are just a front for special interests as well? You keep dreaming the dream.
And there is no such thing as global warming, the earth was created 6000 years ago, the science of creationism should be taught in our schools, the debt ceiling does not have to be raised, John Kerry was not a war hero, there are death panels in the new healthcare legislation, all Muslims are terrorists, the economy doesn't need a stimulus, republicans propose legislation until President Obama supports it and then they are against it, corporations are people with equal first amendment rights - the same as real people, President Obama isn't an American citizen, unemployed people just don't want to work so they don't deserve unemployment insurance, affordable housing in NJ has been bad for communities and is merely a tool for special interest developers, Norway's right wing Christian terrorist can't be a Christian because Christians could never commit such horrid acts.............
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 11:12 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
This is the same supreme court which brought New Jersey the worse affordable housing rules in the country, rules which are really just a front for big developer interests? The same court that brought us the Abbott school funding laws that have been a disaster, and are just a front for special interests as well? You keep dreaming the dream.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 9:01 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
a good thing that he did:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269888/chris-christie-does-it-again-james-sherk
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 8:33 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
The New Jersey Supreme Court has always been the pride of new Jersey - with justices' appointments spanning many many governors with differing ideologies. These fine people have served New Jersey and its constituents well. They are mostly underappreciated and underpaid
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 7:51 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
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Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
Christie is a terrible governor. However, your post may be correct anyway, we have had many terrible governors.
I'd agree with that. I voted for Corzine and he was quite bad, though not as bad as the one before him. Then I voted for Christie because Corzine was so bad and Christie has been even worse. He doesn't actually accomplish anything positive for the state, just a lot of sound bites and publicity stunts designed to make him look good to people far removed from the state. The only thing good I can say about him is he is not a slave to the special interests as much as the ones before him. But he's just replaced it with one special interest, his own. And he's an arrogant ass to boot.
New Jersey deserves its terrible politicians. We keep electing them and accepting the corruption and special interest domination. The Assembly and Senate are just as bad, if not worse. Both parties.
That pretty much sums it up.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 7:43 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
Christie is a terrible governor. However, your post may be correct anyway, we have had many terrible governors.
I'd agree with that. I voted for Corzine and he was quite bad, though not as bad as the one before him. Then I voted for Christie because Corzine was so bad and Christie has been even worse. He doesn't actually accomplish anything positive for the state, just a lot of sound bites and publicity stunts designed to make him look good to people far removed from the state. The only thing good I can say about him is he is not a slave to the special interests as much as the ones before him. But he's just replaced it with one special interest, his own. And he's an arrogant ass to boot.
New Jersey deserves its terrible politicians. We keep electing them and accepting the corruption and special interest domination. The Assembly and Senate are just as bad, if not worse. Both parties.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2011, 12:46 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
Christie is a terrible governor. However, your post may be correct anyway, we have had many terrible governors.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 7:12 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Guest wrote:
Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/20/nj-christie-approval-43-a_n_904508.html
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 7:06 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
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Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
NOT
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011, 5:40 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
Christie is the best governor we have had in a long time. Even most dems realize that.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jun 5 2011, 6:22 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Why our right wing governor is so bad for the environment
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You democrats are so stupid you don't even realize that there is NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING!
TROLL.