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[quote="anon-opr0"]The link posted a couple pages back just goes to a site that summarizes public 990 data. Even the full 990 doesn't come close to transparently showing the budget of the Fire Company. It also only goes through 2019, so it's almost 3 years old, way before the new car incident. But what is does show is the fire company routinely collects contributions in excess of its costs. It says that the Township "only" provides 70% of its funding, but since it operated with a 24% excess revenue margin that means the township contributed more than 100% of the costs needed for it to operate, on top of typically paying for its equipment. Seems like this $1 million they claim the Township Committee wants to get its hands on has been built by hoarding tax dollars and donations and interest on them over time. It's nice to have a fund for rainy days, so no problem. But let's not pretend tax dollars aren't want make it possible to keep the lights or or what helped build the assets in the first place. If the Fire Company says they are open book and transparent, why not prove it by releasing their full line item budgets?[/quote]
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anon-p9qo
Posted: Tue, Jan 3 2023, 12:18 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-rp09 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-opr0 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
You fail to state how that was a “pointless comparison”. You give your reasoning for wanting to live here while stating the reasons others would like to leave. It’s funny how newer residents are not familiar with any areas south of here, and still believe we have the lowest taxes in the area.
Are you still living here? What do you like about Cranbury? Maybe you should move, get your 800K and then live in Nebraska.
Yes still here. 800k are you on drugs? Seriously I feel like I’m talking to a 10 year old. If not you must be a newbie not familiar with the area.
I’m sorry, looks like the available houses are well over a million.
http://www.cranbury.info/show_house.php
anon-8p57
Posted: Mon, Jan 2 2023, 9:35 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-rp09 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-opr0 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
You fail to state how that was a “pointless comparison”. You give your reasoning for wanting to live here while stating the reasons others would like to leave. It’s funny how newer residents are not familiar with any areas south of here, and still believe we have the lowest taxes in the area.
Are you still living here? What do you like about Cranbury? Maybe you should move, get your 800K and then live in Nebraska.
Yes still here. 800k are you on drugs? Seriously I feel like I’m talking to a 10 year old. If not you must be a newbie not familiar with the area.
anon-rp09
Posted: Sun, Jan 1 2023, 12:57 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-opr0 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
You fail to state how that was a “pointless comparison”. You give your reasoning for wanting to live here while stating the reasons others would like to leave. It’s funny how newer residents are not familiar with any areas south of here, and still believe we have the lowest taxes in the area.
Are you still living here? What do you like about Cranbury? Maybe you should move, get your 800K and then live in Nebraska.
anon-opr0
Posted: Wed, Dec 28 2022, 11:29 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-opr0 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
You fail to state how that was a “pointless comparison”. You give your reasoning for wanting to live here while stating the reasons others would like to leave. It’s funny how newer residents are not familiar with any areas south of here, and still believe we have the lowest taxes in the area.
I exactly gave the reasons the comparison was pointless. If you can't comprehend them, I can't help you.
Property taxes are far lower in Alabama than anywhere in NJ including further south. So why don't we all move to Alabama or why can't we get the exact same services and schools here paying the same property taxes as Alabama? The answer is the same as why some people are willing to pay more here than more rural communities to the south of us.
anon-8p57
Posted: Wed, Dec 28 2022, 5:55 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-opr0 wrote:
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
You fail to state how that was a “pointless comparison”. You give your reasoning for wanting to live here while stating the reasons others would like to leave. It’s funny how newer residents are not familiar with any areas south of here, and still believe we have the lowest taxes in the area.
anon-opr0
Posted: Tue, Dec 27 2022, 9:20 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-8p57 wrote:
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
That's a pointless comparison. What matters is who has the best tax rate in the area you want to live, or to the area within our commuting profile. Cranbury does we'll versus our neighbors. Way cheaper from a tax perspective to live her and send kids to PHS or commute to the train station than the alternatives. If you don't mind living more rurally and don't have to worry about schools or commutes, go for it.
anon-8p57
Posted: Tue, Dec 27 2022, 5:59 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-ro03 wrote:
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
Not really worth bragging about. Middlesex county has become a urban wasteland. Taxes are lower in communities that are somewhat more rural to our south.
anon-ro03
Posted: Mon, Dec 26 2022, 7:50 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
... Still having the lowest taxes in Middlesex county. And if you don't like living here, don't let that stop you from moving to Florida.
anon-p0q2
Posted: Wed, Dec 21 2022, 8:09 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-8p57 wrote:
Volunteers Wanted...-00q5 wrote:
It always amazes me how nasty to do-nothings are, whether on this board or gossiping over the back fence. If you want to know what's up with the Fire Company, the Library or the TC, go ask them. Or better yet, volunteer to help. They're your neighbors and, for the most part, they got involved to do what they think is right, even if their vision doesn't align with yours or mine.
I agree with your comment, except the library. Nice that our tax dollars were used to purchase the Wright property to “protect the vista to the west”.
Don't worry based on the TC meeting they will pave the remaining space for pickleball courts which will be another ballfield.
anon-8p57
Posted: Wed, Dec 21 2022, 8:05 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
Volunteers Wanted...-00q5 wrote:
It always amazes me how nasty to do-nothings are, whether on this board or gossiping over the back fence. If you want to know what's up with the Fire Company, the Library or the TC, go ask them. Or better yet, volunteer to help. They're your neighbors and, for the most part, they got involved to do what they think is right, even if their vision doesn't align with yours or mine.
I agree with your comment, except the library. Nice that our tax dollars were used to purchase the Wright property to “protect the vista to the west”.
Volunteers Wanted...-00q5
Posted: Mon, Dec 19 2022, 1:50 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
It always amazes me how nasty to do-nothings are, whether on this board or gossiping over the back fence. If you want to know what's up with the Fire Company, the Library or the TC, go ask them. Or better yet, volunteer to help. They're your neighbors and, for the most part, they got involved to do what they think is right, even if their vision doesn't align with yours or mine.
anon-r9rn
Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 9:14 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-p0q2 wrote:
The tax returns for the Fire Co. were posted. So if people want to see how much money they have they just need to look.
All it seems is that people want to troll for some reason and I doubt the Fire Co or TC is going to respond to trolls.
Send link
anon-opr0
Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 4:12 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-p0q2 wrote:
The tax returns for the Fire Co. were posted. So if people want to see how much money they have they just need to look.
All it seems is that people want to troll for some reason and I doubt the Fire Co or TC is going to respond to trolls.
The posted 990's were a few years old. And they were very basic. Not a budget.
anon-p0q2
Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 12:39 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
The tax returns for the Fire Co. were posted. So if people want to see how much money they have they just need to look.
All it seems is that people want to troll for some reason and I doubt the Fire Co or TC is going to respond to trolls.
curious-n851
Posted: Sun, Dec 18 2022, 9:46 am EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
I don't see the fire company offering up any information on here like they were when they were up in arms trying to get everybody on their side to bash the TC and Administrator. i thought all you had to do was ask and they were willing to show all to see or will we have Kervan throw a hissy fit if we ask. it should be posted for transparency or they will tell you if you want to see then you need to come to the firehouse to see.
anon-3103
Posted: Sat, Dec 17 2022, 8:33 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Why is the TC against the Fire Co
anon-24r5 wrote:
anon-354n wrote:
anon-r152 wrote:
anon-24r5 wrote:
Did Charlie grt his two trucks which he ordered?
The Fire Co has a new chief’s car which anyone can plainly see around town and since the TC made no mention of it and the ordinance says they can use their own funds to purchase wherever they want however they want it seems there was nothing wrong to begin with. The ordinance only says they need to follow a bid process when using town funds.
Since you mention the Fire Co funds, how much do they have? Are those figures public?
How much do they have? Maybe the taxpayer is contributing too much?
I heard they have closer to 1.25 million in their coffers.