Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12
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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 12:21 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

This may be the reason:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc//Vehicle/moving_to_nj/traffic01.htm

35 mph on suburban business and residential areas
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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 1:21 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

Except that guidance has been around for a while and it doesn't seem to be a standard for many of the roads in this state, including many that have only been created since then. Ancil Davison and parts of Cranbury Neck and Plainsboro and Dey, etc. are all 50 MPH. Other roads are 45. Old Trenton just beyond this affected stretch is already 40 MPH despite being a residential area and being a relatively new road. Those standards are like rules in the Engllish language -- there are more exceptions than the rule.
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PostPosted: Fri, Apr 23 2010, 1:31 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

This subject was on the agenda for our township committee a few weeks ago. What did they ask the county to do? Maybe they asked for this 35mph speed?
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PostPosted: Tue, May 4 2010, 6:08 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

How is it that people think that 50 mph zone on OTR is the odd ball speed limit????? OTR is 50 MPH from 571 alllllllllllll the wayyyyyyyyy to Sloan ave. Yet you people keep saying it's 40 everywhere except the 50 zone. What is wrong with you people??? I just don't understand how you can live with these fascinations you have. They make medication for that. The only place OTR is not 50 is from 571 to Ancil. What's that........ a half of mile? Sorry to disappoint everyone but OTR keeps going!!!! You should drive it one day. It's really nice scenery!!!! As for the 35mph speed limit...... I'm not doing it and everyone else I talk to isn't either. Have you ever tried to drive it at 35?? Really, Have you??? It's ridiculous. Why don't we just widen it to 6 lanes and lower the speed limit to 15. Hey while were at it, lets rip up the pavement and ban all Automobiles! I think a 35 would be appropriate for a horse and buggy!!!! YYYYEEEEAAAAYYYYYYYY Cranbury!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue, May 4 2010, 6:23 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

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How is it that people think that 50 mph zone on OTR is the odd ball speed limit????? OTR is 50 MPH from 571 alllllllllllll the wayyyyyyyyy to Sloan ave. Yet you people keep saying it's 40 everywhere except the 50 zone. What is wrong with you people??? I just don't understand how you can live with these fascinations you have. They make medication for that. The only place OTR is not 50 is from 571 to Ancil. What's that........ a half of mile? Sorry to disappoint everyone but OTR keeps going!!!! You should drive it one day. It's really nice scenery!!!! As for the 35mph speed limit...... I'm not doing it and everyone else I talk to isn't either. Have you ever tried to drive it at 35?? Really, Have you??? It's ridiculous. Why don't we just widen it to 6 lanes and lower the speed limit to 15. Hey while were at it, lets rip up the pavement and ban all Automobiles! I think a 35 would be appropriate for a horse and buggy!!!! YYYYEEEEAAAAYYYYYYYY Cranbury!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


Dude, you need to get back on your meds ASAP.

In any event, you're wrong about the facts. OTR is 40 everywhere from 571 until it ends except this residential section between One Mile Road (speed doesn’t change at Ancil Davison) and Main Street. It is 40 MPH before this section and it is 40 MPH after this section. What it is a couple miles away in a different county doesn't seem particularly relevant but everyone’s entitled to an opinion. No one here has supported adding lanes or reducing it to 35 MPH. People would like to see it preserve the consistent speed of 40 MPH that exists before and after this stretch. And logically it make little sense to support a slower speed along the business park between 571 and One Mile Road than along the residential and park stretch where the speed is currently increased to 50 MPH.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 4 2010, 7:28 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

So OTR being 50 MPH in West Windsor and Hamilton but it doesn't matter because it is in another county but because it is 40MPH in East Windsor that is pertinent?
Last time I checked East Windsor was in Mercer County. OTR between One Mile and South Main has always been and should remain 50MPH. I love the people who buy a home on a 50MPH road and then want to change the speed limit. These are the same type of people who buy a house across the street from a firehouse and then complain that the trucks are too loud.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 4 2010, 9:00 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

reasonable2 wrote:
So OTR being 50 MPH in West Windsor and Hamilton but it doesn't matter because it is in another county but because it is 40MPH in East Windsor that is pertinent?
Last time I checked East Windsor was in Mercer County. OTR between One Mile and South Main has always been and should remain 50MPH. I love the people who buy a home on a 50MPH road and then want to change the speed limit. These are the same type of people who buy a house across the street from a firehouse and then complain that the trucks are too loud.


Are you really that dense that you can't see the difference between the relevance of the sections in East Windsor and Cranbury which are physically adjacent to the section in question being more meaningful than lengths of the road completely detached from the section?

If you want to ignore the speed of road on either side of the 50MPH section and say, well it's 50 MPH somewhere else so why not this little stretch surrounded by 40 MPH sections too, then logic isn't in your vocabulary and there's no point in discussing it.

As for the idea that some of the residents (but not all) bought after the road was 50 MPH, so? Speed limits change over time to reflect the character and use of the road. For over two decades this section has been predominately residential. It’s simply not the same area it was when it was a country farmland road. And now the reality of the road is people have to drive 40 MPH through a business park and 40 MPH through the adjacent residential area to the 130 anyway. So what’s the point of encouraging them to speed up through the residential and park area just to slow down again? Especially when some of the area is extremely narrow with no side to the road? Clinging to the idea of what the road was like when Ford was in office is just silly.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 20 2010, 4:27 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

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Reasonable. wrote:
How is it that people think that 50 mph zone on OTR is the odd ball speed limit????? OTR is 50 MPH from 571 alllllllllllll the wayyyyyyyyy to Sloan ave. Yet you people keep saying it's 40 everywhere except the 50 zone. What is wrong with you people??? I just don't understand how you can live with these fascinations you have. They make medication for that. The only place OTR is not 50 is from 571 to Ancil. What's that........ a half of mile? Sorry to disappoint everyone but OTR keeps going!!!! You should drive it one day. It's really nice scenery!!!! As for the 35mph speed limit...... I'm not doing it and everyone else I talk to isn't either. Have you ever tried to drive it at 35?? Really, Have you??? It's ridiculous. Why don't we just widen it to 6 lanes and lower the speed limit to 15. Hey while were at it, lets rip up the pavement and ban all Automobiles! I think a 35 would be appropriate for a horse and buggy!!!! YYYYEEEEAAAAYYYYYYYY Cranbury!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


Dude, you need to get back on your meds ASAP.

In any event, you're wrong about the facts. OTR is 40 everywhere from 571 until it ends except this residential section between One Mile Road (speed doesn’t change at Ancil Davison) and Main Street. It is 40 MPH before this section and it is 40 MPH after this section. What it is a couple miles away in a different county doesn't seem particularly relevant but everyone’s entitled to an opinion. No one here has supported adding lanes or reducing it to 35 MPH. People would like to see it preserve the consistent speed of 40 MPH that exists before and after this stretch. And logically it make little sense to support a slower speed along the business park between 571 and One Mile Road than along the residential and park stretch where the speed is currently increased to 50 MPH.
Dude sorry but the person who wrote this is right and sorry but you are wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 20 2010, 8:15 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Old Trenton Road Reconfiguration - Township Committee Meeting April 12 Reply with quote

You're entitled to be wrong too.

BTW, it's not even true that it's 50 all the way until Sloan. It slows down in a few places where it passes more residential areas, all the way to 35 MPH for that matter.
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