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publius-q30r
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 22 2016, 1:19 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

"Why should i pay taxes when i dont have any kids, dagnabbit?"
ummmmm...........i'm sure some ole codger said the same thing when you were knee high to a bullfrog Ebeneezer.
Taxes are the price we all pay for civilization.
I dont like my money going to blow up other countries, but, there you go.
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PostPosted: Fri, Dec 23 2016, 9:20 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

grandma-0582 wrote:
anon-475o wrote:


In this town, there can't be more than a handful of kids that are not in school during the day and the school has its own librarian. There are hardly any programs for kids, and the few that there are require very little on the part of the children's librarian.


No success with teen Librarian Joann Dera or children Librarian Jan Murphy. Applied broad definition of "teen" to include 12 yr olds only gathers the gamers one hour a week. No creativity or outreach to actual teens. PHS resident teens abandoned Wednesday night reading sessions. Children's programs flatlined for years.

Greed and selfishness to the tune of $180,000 to have three certified librarians with daytime shifts. Schedule each individually, and alternate, all OPERATING hours and add a short Sunday.

Give real service.


It's a shame. "Supporting the library" is typically a noble cause that involves helping improve access to information and expand literacy and the love of learning. Unfortunately, this project is about indulging a small group of cranky old people and librarians who don't want to have to deal with all those annoying kids making noise in their library.
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PostPosted: Fri, Dec 23 2016, 2:04 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

Said the mother of the kid who was running around making noise.
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PostPosted: Sat, Dec 24 2016, 10:33 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-5474 wrote:
grandma-0582 wrote:
anon-475o wrote:


In this town, there can't be more than a handful of kids that are not in school during the day and the school has its own librarian. There are hardly any programs for kids, and the few that there are require very little on the part of the children's librarian.


No success with teen Librarian Joann Dera or children Librarian Jan Murphy. Applied broad definition of "teen" to include 12 yr olds only gathers the gamers one hour a week. No creativity or outreach to actual teens. PHS resident teens abandoned Wednesday night reading sessions. Children's programs flatlined for years.

Greed and selfishness to the tune of $180,000 to have three certified librarians with daytime shifts. Schedule each individually, and alternate, all OPERATING hours and add a short Sunday.

Give real service.


It's a shame. "Supporting the library" is typically a noble cause that involves helping improve access to information and expand literacy and the love of learning. Unfortunately, this project is about indulging a small group of cranky old people and librarians who don't want to have to deal with all those annoying kids making noise in their library.


Psq-0o99 wrote:
Said the mother of the kid who was running around making noise.


Said the cranky old person/librarian.
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psq-07o2
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PostPosted: Sat, Dec 24 2016, 12:29 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

Neener-neener.
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Reformist-0582
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PostPosted: Wed, Feb 15, 3:47 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-pr2p wrote:
Not sure why people may think the new library building and operation are not linked.

The library director is primarily focused on a new building. If you need proof, look at the Director's latest December note on their web site www.cranburypubliclibrary.org, it is all about contributing to a new library, nothing about services.


Current shoddy operations will directly impact a new library.
Cranbury Library usage statistics continue to drop. Circulation numbers steadily decline - which is apparent to TC & BOE as they see the monthly reports that Ms. Mullen & Ms. Venanzi REFUSE to post on the library's website. [That is why TC taking hardline with library to have all funds in hand prior to groundbreaking].

THE LIBRARY IS A TAXPAYER FUNDED ENTITY AND MUST BE TRANSPARENT WITH ALL DATA IN REAL TIME.

The smoke & mirror mentality of Venanzi Library Board is that the lack of space hinders the library. In actuality it is the Library Director that is the problem.

Any new library building will be gutless with the inept Director Ms. Mullen at the helm and the slacking Ms. Murphy and Ms. Dera on board.

Library Board of Directors stop being bystanders, focus on the considerable deficiencies in library and tow the hardline.
Until that occurs we will be saddled with a big expensive building being run by bottom barrel performers.
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anony12-p0o2
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PostPosted: Wed, Feb 15, 7:51 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

How do you have access to these reports? Are you on the town council or BOE?
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anon-q2q6
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PostPosted: Wed, Feb 15, 9:44 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

Reformist-0582 wrote:
anon-pr2p wrote:
Not sure why people may think the new library building and operation are not linked.

The library director is primarily focused on a new building. If you need proof, look at the Director's latest December note on their web site www.cranburypubliclibrary.org, it is all about contributing to a new library, nothing about services.


Current shoddy operations will directly impact a new library.
Cranbury Library usage statistics continue to drop. Circulation numbers steadily decline - which is apparent to TC & BOE as they see the monthly reports that Ms. Mullen & Ms. Venanzi REFUSE to post on the library's website. [That is why TC taking hardline with library to have all funds in hand prior to groundbreaking].

THE LIBRARY IS A TAXPAYER FUNDED ENTITY AND MUST BE TRANSPARENT WITH ALL DATA IN REAL TIME.

The smoke & mirror mentality of Venanzi Library Board is that the lack of space hinders the library. In actuality it is the Library Director that is the problem.

Any new library building will be gutless with the inept Director Ms. Mullen at the helm and the slacking Ms. Murphy and Ms. Dera on board.

Library Board of Directors stop being bystanders, focus on the considerable deficiencies in library and tow the hardline.
Until that occurs we will be saddled with a big expensive building being run by bottom barrel performers.


Sadly, the numbers are juiced anyway. They never give a straight answer about how many non-school age people use the library. The fact is, we don't need more space and the design for the proposed library is proof. The actual library space in new design is about the same size as the current library. They could re-design the current library space and accomplish pretty much the same thing.

For my money, I'd rather see them add on a community room to Teddy's. Or people could just periodically rent the room at the Cranbury Inn, or Methodist Church, or Presbyterian Church, or Cranbury Station, or one of the hotels, or Town Hall, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu, Feb 16, 2:40 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

Again, if the library is not transparent about information regarding book and programming statistics, how does anybody besides the TC and BOE know about them?
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PostPosted: Thu, Feb 16, 2:41 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

On another thread it is mentioned the library has collected and held over the last few years an excess of $650,000 that could have been used each year to better our current program.

Is that a true number $650,000 the library "stole" from not using that money each year to better our communities library program? How is that even allowed that we have a mandatory tax each year but they are able to not use that money? I have been on the fence about donating to them but if this is true no way they certainly do not need my money when they have that much left over each year. Why would ANYONE give money to them!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, Feb 16, 7:18 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-992n wrote:
On another thread it is mentioned the library has collected and held over the last few years an excess of $650,000 that could have been used each year to better our current program.

Is that a true number $650,000 the library "stole" from not using that money each year to better our communities library program? How is that even allowed that we have a mandatory tax each year but they are able to not use that money? I have been on the fence about donating to them but if this is true no way they certainly do not need my money when they have that much left over each year. Why would ANYONE give money to them!!!!


you're a fucking idiot rofl
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PostPosted: Fri, Feb 17, 7:56 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-q2q6 wrote:
Reformist-0582 wrote:
anon-pr2p wrote:
Not sure why people may think the new library building and operation are not linked.

The library director is primarily focused on a new building. If you need proof, look at the Director's latest December note on their web site www.cranburypubliclibrary.org, it is all about contributing to a new library, nothing about services.


Current shoddy operations will directly impact a new library.
Cranbury Library usage statistics continue to drop. Circulation numbers steadily decline - which is apparent to TC & BOE as they see the monthly reports that Ms. Mullen & Ms. Venanzi REFUSE to post on the library's website. [That is why TC taking hardline with library to have all funds in hand prior to groundbreaking].

THE LIBRARY IS A TAXPAYER FUNDED ENTITY AND MUST BE TRANSPARENT WITH ALL DATA IN REAL TIME.

The smoke & mirror mentality of Venanzi Library Board is that the lack of space hinders the library. In actuality it is the Library Director that is the problem.

Any new library building will be gutless with the inept Director Ms. Mullen at the helm and the slacking Ms. Murphy and Ms. Dera on board.

Library Board of Directors stop being bystanders, focus on the considerable deficiencies in library and tow the hardline.
Until that occurs we will be saddled with a big expensive building being run by bottom barrel performers.


Sadly, the numbers are juiced anyway. They never give a straight answer about how many non-school age people use the library. The fact is, we don't need more space and the design for the proposed library is proof. The actual library space in new design is about the same size as the current library. They could re-design the current library space and accomplish pretty much the same thing.

For my money, I'd rather see them add on a community room to Teddy's. Or people could just periodically rent the room at the Cranbury Inn, or Methodist Church, or Presbyterian Church, or Cranbury Station, or one of the hotels, or Town Hall, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri, Feb 17, 7:56 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

12anony-p0o2 wrote:
Again, if the library is not transparent about information regarding book and programming statistics, how does anybody besides the TC and BOE know about them?
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PostPosted: Fri, Feb 17, 7:57 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-992n wrote:
On another thread it is mentioned the library has collected and held over the last few years an excess of $650,000 that could have been used each year to better our current program.

Is that a true number $650,000 the library "stole" from not using that money each year to better our communities library program? How is that even allowed that we have a mandatory tax each year but they are able to not use that money? I have been on the fence about donating to them but if this is true no way they certainly do not need my money when they have that much left over each year. Why would ANYONE give money to them!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri, Feb 17, 9:25 am EST    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

While the Indivisible member was trying to hack the site (and prevent free speech), they re-posted an important reminder from the past, the police station. This article points out the increase in bid price over budget, and in fact, I remember the end cost even increased after that. Does anyone recall the numbers?

We don't want to be put into a similar situation if the Indivisible Library gets started. There needs to be either a guarantee of building price by a third party who will assume all cost overruns or a contingency fund built in. We should not have the taxpayers assume even more of a financial burden.
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CHRIS C.-0582
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PostPosted: Tue, Apr 4, 5:19 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Queen of Scottsdale Reply with quote

anon-475o wrote:

For the same money you could buy every kid in Cranbury school a Tablet reader and an Amazon prime membership.


Past: What could 650K have purchased for its patrons and citizens of Cranbury? I daresay a tablet for every RESIDENT with a paid subscription to Amazon books, Netflix, Spotify and HULU? All the while keeping the current library in place to give people the traditional library setting.

Present: Fake news of BIG and INTERESTING library events, inflated library circulation and usage numbers. Misrepresentation of 'private funds' donations

Future: Squander of annual State Library Tax AND municipal tax on a new brick and mortar library building with LESS shelf space, LESS operating hours than the current, and the delightful sounds of ping pong from the COMMUNITY CENTER meeting rooms.

Save Our Library DON'T BUILD A NEW ONE
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